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Highway61
Posted 2009-09-02 2:38 AM (#289767 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX


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Joe,
Thank you very much. I believe that, even if I had no color preference, I would, as you do, prefer the skinnier neck.
It took me years to makes sense of all the Tele and Strat varieties, and I guess that I have to educate myself about the Ts in the same way. Right now, though, I'm a bit overwhelmed by how one can tell, without trying the guitar at a Guitar Center, which model one is looking at.
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Jukebox Joe
Posted 2009-09-02 7:27 AM (#289768 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX


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Richard, you're very welcome. Since you are an electric player, then yes, you might very well prefer the skinnier neck. I know it's overwhelming without being able to just try the different ones at Guitar Center so here's an idea:

Go to a Guitar Center or Sam Ash or wherever and see if you can get your hands on the new Korean Elite 1778TX. It's not American, but it does have the skinnier neck. Then play pretty much any other midbowl Ovation. Feel the difference? If so, consider bidding on the black one on eBay (and make sure you agree on the refund policy).

If, on the other hand, you don't feel the difference (like I said, some will and some won't), then reconsider the one I'm selling, save yourself some money, and know that I'll take it back if you don't like it, from one O fan to another :-)

I'll keep it available here for a while before putting it back on eBay.
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Highway61
Posted 2009-09-02 4:29 PM (#289769 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX


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I went to Guitar Center and tried the TX. If that is the skinnier neck, it is the skinnier neck that I should stick with.
The first 1778T I ever owned was a fabulous guitar, but--and I had forgotten about this--the neck had started to really bother me. It was too wide, and its V shape was too pronounced.
I have to say that I played a bunch of guitars at GC whileI was waiting for someone to be able to take the 1778TX down from the top row, and as soon as began playing the 1778, I said (aloud), "Ahhh, that's it."
I'll have to do some research to see why I should not buy a TX and wait for the right T to become available.
Joe, again I thank you.
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Highway61
Posted 2009-09-02 4:35 PM (#289770 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX


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I see two differences: different bracing, stained rosewood instead of ebony fingerboard.

I was concerned that the Low E was off in regard to intonation as it neared the octave. I would hope that a lowering of action would remedy that situation.
Do they use shims under the saddle on the TX?
Can one sand the saddle if one needs to?
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Jukebox Joe
Posted 2009-09-02 4:52 PM (#289771 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX


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Don't mention it! I'm glad to help a fellow O fan, especially a fellow Elite T appreciator!

I would definitely not dissuade you from getting the TX. It's the next best thing to a T, and STILL better than any other guitar out there (in my opinion) thanks to its skinnier neck and its tone.

Yes on your shim question. Shouldn't need to sand the saddle.

If you're antsy to own and play, get the TX. If you can wait a few days, bid on the T (the one on eBay looks to be in as good condition as you're gonna find).

Let me know what you end up buying! I doubt you'll regret either decision now that you've experienced the "aah" factor!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-09-03 4:44 AM (#289772 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX



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Now that we have all talked bad about the smooth-topped T's, here is an Orange Flame for $670!




And it comes with a case.
Now we have said that the textured top sounds better, and it does.
But that is not to say that the Flame T's sound Bad!
And they do look cool (to some people). And this is alot less than I sold mine for.
And it is alot less than that one that keeps getting relisted for $1500. (Might be $1200 this week)

I just thought that I would share this with y'all since I cannot afford it. :cool:
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dweezil
Posted 2009-09-03 5:06 AM (#289773 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX


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dweezil
Posted 2009-09-03 5:14 AM (#289774 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX


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Hmm, seller won't ship to the UK!!!!

Anyone prepared to act as a go between?
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-09-03 12:59 PM (#289775 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX
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Originally posted by dweezil:
Anyone prepared to act as a go between?
Sure. Email me...
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Jukebox Joe
Posted 2009-09-03 2:35 PM (#289776 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX


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Very uncool postscript to my Elite saga:

I spoke with one Ovation rep in Miami in person who confirmed there are no plans to make any more textured tops except the black TX. I asked him if I could custom order a good old 1778T. He said, of course, but that it could take as long as 6 months! I asked him what it would cost and he didn't have numbers for me.

I emailed Ovation and got this response:

"Hi Joe,
Unfortunately, this guitar is no longer being made. In order to get a custom one made, it needs to get the approval from top management at Ovation, and would likely cost upwards of $5,000. Let me know if this is something you are interested in pursuing, and I will try to get approval.

thanks!
Mike"

:mad:

WHATEVER!!!
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Auriemma
Posted 2009-09-03 3:10 PM (#289777 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX



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Take a look here:

Ebay "1778T"

Two meet your specs.
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dweezil
Posted 2009-09-03 3:20 PM (#289778 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX


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Lets have a bidding war! Bring it on.

Seriously though just to let you know I'm also bidding on them, feel free to bid.
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Jukebox Joe
Posted 2009-09-03 3:21 PM (#289779 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX


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Thanks. Believe me, I would be bidding on them if I didn't already have the black one. I have the lusty red as well, and I'm looking for the only other color - pewter - but even then I do not know if they made it with the skinny neck. (I'm actually selling a pewter one with the regular neck).
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nervous
Posted 2009-09-11 7:10 PM (#289780 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX


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Originally posted by nervous:
Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
OH! Hey Sharky... Wanna bet whether this ends-up selling for more than the original BIN of $535?
$$$'s down, I am betting against that.
$405 final (plus shipping). Who got it?
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Jukebox Joe
Posted 2009-09-11 7:39 PM (#289781 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX


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Originally posted by Joe Tuñón:
I'm looking for the only other color - pewter - but even then I do not know if they made it with the skinny neck. (I'm actually selling a pewter one with the regular neck).
I just confirmed that unless there is an exception out there, they never made a textured pewter 1778T with the slimmer neck and the OP-PRO. The textured pewter 1778T of old had the regular neck and the OP-30, and the new pewter 1778TX is glossy.

And yeah, who won this ebay black T? Inquiring minds want to know!
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Highway61
Posted 2009-09-11 9:41 PM (#289782 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX


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Twas not I. I caved and bought a TX.
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Highway61
Posted 2009-09-11 10:57 PM (#289783 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX


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(I'm happy, though.)


(I'm extremely tired of buying used guitars that have been adjusted by wannabe guitar techs.)
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-09-11 11:21 PM (#289784 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX



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"I'm extremely tired of buying used guitars that have been adjusted by wannabe guitar techs."

:eek: HEY, NOW!

[Oh! After a moment's reflection I realized that you wanna adjust them yourself, Right?)
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Highway61
Posted 2009-09-12 4:31 AM (#289785 - in reply to #289742)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Elite T or TX


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Well, I'd prefer that they come right out of the box set up perfectly for all my preferences (idiosyncrasies) (which I know is extreme dreaming) or to have been (just so you know that I'm not pointing fingers at anyone here) owned and adjusted by someone who understands guitars in general and Ovations in particular.
In lieu of those things, I would rather have something fresh from the factory, something that hasn't had its saddle sanded on a belt sander or had its truss rod spun around on the end of a Black and Decker drill.
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