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| Wet blanket? That's his best shirt with a little post-gig spit down the front. |
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Location: enid, ok | Mixed with peanut shavings from the bar... |
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Location: NJ | sans-eppis'd be much nicer (imo). |
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Location: closely held secret | I'm with ya, Cliff. On that Koa, either nothing where the eppis go, or a different inlay pattern, maybe outlining the sound holes. An outline of an eppi that isn't there just looks silly, there's no other visual clues to explain the shape. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I don't mind the outlined epps. It suggests the distinctive trim characteristics of an Ovation product. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Those epi's remind me of tatoo'd on "permenent" make-up. Ugggg. |
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Location: enid, ok | I know koa's a nice fit on a solidbody. I'm not so sure about the acoustic qualities. |
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Location: Tuscany, Italy | I've read somewhere in this board that Koa sound dull at the very beginning but after some .... years.. it opens up beautifully.
What about this one.....
Standard Elite Texture N2778T - 8GF
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I think the textured top elites are spruce, not koa.
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Location: SoCal | I've never seen a blue Elite T before, just light gray and black. Very stunning. And yeah, Elite T's are spruce, not koa.
Take off the epaulets, use ebony on the fingerboard, and put on gold hardware, and I'd consider one for my next purchase. I already know how good the Elite T sounds acoustically..... |
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Location: Tuscany, Italy | Yes Dave you are right. Elite is definitely spruce. I was mentioned that in the attempt to answer maxdaddy question on sound and acoustic quality of koa.
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Location: Portland, OR | Without knowing I'm inclined to think they're made in US, who knows? Nice.
As to the exclusivity issue on the "N" series, Ten years or so ago when I got my first N769, a gal at the factory wrote me a letter on inquiry that there were 15 sold in the US, the rest of the 230 or so went to Japan. I still have that somewhere.
So a few months ago, I email them again to find out if they had records as to how many black ones were sold in the US. Got an email back that I would have to contact the Japanese distributor inasmuch as they had no records and Nakao was the sole distributor of this item. Sounds like a load of BS to me. They had the records ten yrs ago, enough to tell me exactly how many were sold here. Who should care at this point?
Just got an N768. God help me find out how many of those were sold in the US. I'm pretty sure this one was. Got it from a guy whose Dad had died and knew a lot of dealers.
Why are they so pissy about giving out information? Afraid of being sued after 15 years? Seems silly to me. John |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Most companies don't keep records they don't need. I've defended several that wished they had the records, so I doubt they get rid of the information to avoid suit. Record keeping is a big expense. |
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Location: Portland, OR | I would agree with you in a general sense. We have our closed files in storage and many of them are 30-40 years old. But they have kept records on some of the other models. I doubt that the build records on these Nakaos would fill a cardboard box. Still don't get it. |
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Location: SoCal | Sligo, if you're gonna have an attitude, get off the board. Have you ever been to the factory? Do you know the people there? Have you ever run a company on a long term basis?
I've been to the factory and I know the people. They are good people and they keep the records that need keeping. Probably when they were asked 10 years ago, if was just after the guitars were built. Now the records are gone.
I run my own business. After 7 years, files get purged. Otherwise I'd be overrun in storeage costs. I keep what I can on the computer but a lot of the records are actual files and after 7 years, they're gone.
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Location: Portland, OR | Sorry. No offense intended. |
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Location: SoCal | None taken. But be respectiful (at least until you know them personally, then all bets are off) about the people at the factory. You will not find a better group of people anywhere..... |
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| I spoke with Rich Hall at Rickenbacker back when I bought my 4080. He told me they were considering doing a research project and have a book printed because of all the tedious questions, they kept getting through the years, concerning serial numbers production amounts and the like.
He has a small staff, like he always has, and tasks like this are a courtesy to the customer but not an obligation. He also told me some of the earlier guitars from the 50's 60's & much of the 70's were all done on paper slips and they are packed in box after box in no particular order. So he gave me what information he had like my double neck Ric was two serial numbers away from the one they built for Geddy Lee and that dated mine at the second month of production for these in 75 If I remember right. This information was only because He had the numbers from the famous musicians on open record.
Rick could actually print a best seller in the music world if he'd let a journalist do this work and take a cut of the finished book. I am not sure if Ovation has this kind of potential but it would sure stop all the tedius questions now wouldn't it?
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Jap beautiesor what ?
