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Rooster
Posted 2011-04-04 8:22 PM (#353868 - in reply to #353843)
Subject: Re: Learning to play chords


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LOL @ dark bar!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2011-04-04 8:52 PM (#353869 - in reply to #353843)
Subject: Re: Learning to play chords



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Originally posted by Damon67:
Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Folklore has 1 & 7/8" nut...
The LX models are 1 3/4
Wow! That is just barely wider. (just 1/16")

But yeah, I notice a sixteenth of an inch it the other direction.
Both my iDea CC54i and the Ocean Acoustic have 1 5/8" nuts...
And they do feel different from the normal Ovations.
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G8r
Posted 2011-04-04 9:10 PM (#353870 - in reply to #353843)
Subject: Re: Learning to play chords


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You sure about 1-5/8"? I really don't think Ovation ever made a guitar with a nut width smaller than 1-11/16".
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dobro
Posted 2011-04-04 9:40 PM (#353871 - in reply to #353843)
Subject: Re: Learning to play chords



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I have fat finger too. Try using ONE finger where the "rules" call for two. Try playing an A major with ONE fat finger. Try an A minor with TWO (one holding down the lower two notes). I do a lot of this "shovel" fingering!
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fillhixx
Posted 2011-04-04 11:23 PM (#353872 - in reply to #353843)
Subject: Re: Learning to play chords



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WAITaaa minute!..... anybody see when the new kid left the room?


Seemed nice enough, sissy fingers though....
:-) :-) :-)

(maybe the smiley faces will help)
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Darkbar
Posted 2011-04-05 6:10 AM (#353873 - in reply to #353843)
Subject: Re: Learning to play chords



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He decided to join the Taylor forum, where all answers are completely serious and any semblance of fun is quashed quickly and severely.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2011-04-05 9:22 AM (#353874 - in reply to #353843)
Subject: Re: Learning to play chords



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Arpeggio runs are, in fact, a matter of playing the specific notes within the chord structure, which is what you say you are doing, so I'm not sure how you can master the technique without learning the chords. Or are you just plucking out a melody line by memory? G8r said it best. Everything on the guitar starts with chords, so you'll increase your enjoyment once you start learning the basic progressions and patterns. I, too, started by memorizing the melody lines of a few songs, but it wasn't long before I saw the need to learn the chords. That was over 50 years ago.
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dp2macrae
Posted 2011-04-05 12:26 PM (#353875 - in reply to #353843)
Subject: Re: Learning to play chords


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Thanks again for all the helpful comments--guess I'll start working on those chords. And, no, I decided not to take the suggestion to take up bass, drums, or accordion (haha)--I have two beautiful guitars and I'm not going to give up that easily!
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Slipkid
Posted 2011-04-05 12:33 PM (#353876 - in reply to #353843)
Subject: Re: Learning to play chords



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Sounds good... Just realize that it will take time. I think I spent a whole year just playing E, D, & A.
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Waskel
Posted 2011-04-05 1:21 PM (#353877 - in reply to #353843)
Subject: Re: Learning to play chords



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You learned E?
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2011-04-05 1:25 PM (#353878 - in reply to #353843)
Subject: Re: Learning to play chords


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Don't give up, unless you want to sell me your guitars really cheap. This site has been both motivational and depressing for me. It's hard to see how well you progress for awhile. It was good for me to see that others had given up guitar for 25 years and wanted to start back up again. I could rationalize that I would have been much better if I had been playing during that 25 year gap. It was depressing to see that others in similar situations were much better than me, but meeting some of the fellow travellers always caused me to practice up to try to avoid embarassment.
You will also get stuck in a rut and this is a good place to go for advice on how to get out, without getting too serious about it. If you just want support or a pat on the back, rather than a kick in the pants, you probably better go somewhere else. Most of the butt kicking is well intentioned, though. Guitar playing is not easy, but it can be very satisfying, even if you just do it for your own enjoyment.
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Darkbar
Posted 2011-04-05 3:30 PM (#353879 - in reply to #353843)
Subject: Re: Learning to play chords



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And don't forget...Youtube is your friend. Many of us are devotees and learn a tremendous amount from that site. For me it has been my greatest learning tool. For your fingerpicking question, something like THIS
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71Jasper
Posted 2011-04-06 5:00 PM (#353880 - in reply to #353843)
Subject: Re: Learning to play chords


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Originally posted by dp2macrae:


In my situation, is learning chords even necessary? I'm learning to play fingerstyle anyway and play arpeggios (slowly).

Opinions would be appreciated.
Since you don't intend to play for audiences, play as it pleases you. If you ever change you mind about the audiences however, you will need to employ chords.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2011-04-06 5:31 PM (#353881 - in reply to #353843)
Subject: Re: Learning to play chords


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Learn to play chords. A lot of what you're learning fingerstyle is based on chords. It will be that much easier learning the chords. And it's not that tough....
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stephent28
Posted 2011-04-06 5:33 PM (#353882 - in reply to #353843)
Subject: Re: Learning to play chords



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I like this ONE where Jim Morrison teaches us the song "Yesterday"!
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Darkbar
Posted 2011-04-06 5:44 PM (#353883 - in reply to #353843)
Subject: Re: Learning to play chords



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Looks like he finally kicked heroin. Good for him!
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fillhixx
Posted 2011-04-06 5:45 PM (#353884 - in reply to #353843)
Subject: Re: Learning to play chords



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Learn everything, it's all good for the brain
and hands.

....have you ever heard Eddie Van Halen's
classical guitar stuff? (not particularly a fan
but a guitar teacher/buddy made me listen once)

If you're playing for your own enjoyment
(and who isn't, really?)
it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.
But, even if you don't want to play for an
'audience' playing for family and loved ones
actually counts as 'performing.'

Learn the chords, they'll increase your pleasure playing
in the long run.


....and remember,
Ribbing is for our pleasure only. :cool:
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