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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-10-05 9:48 PM (#79162 - in reply to #79137)
Subject: Re: Problem with kid practising



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Very Good. Music is a gift that should be shared.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-10-05 9:57 PM (#79163 - in reply to #79137)
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-10-05 10:27 PM (#79164 - in reply to #79137)
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an4340
Posted 2007-10-05 10:29 PM (#79165 - in reply to #79137)
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For godsakes don't make him learn christian metal music. I beg you. And he's not really mature enough for bluegrass gospel ....

Now if you want something interesting, and that will bring him closer to god, they have santaria or voodoo music classes the kid might like. Lot's of that in NYC. Do they have it England?

PS Christian Metal. Those are two terms that should not meet
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-10-05 10:32 PM (#79166 - in reply to #79137)
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"the devil has all the best tunes" and christian music is proof of that.
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maxdaddy7271
Posted 2007-10-06 3:23 AM (#79167 - in reply to #79137)
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Try leaving him alone. This analytical (emphasis on anal)crap from some of you is giving me a headache.
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First Alternate
Posted 2007-10-06 5:31 AM (#79168 - in reply to #79137)
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Leave him alone. Let me rephrase that. Leave him alone.

I have encountered several people who are the result of parents "making" them practice piano, guitar, etc. They are each as good as their last lesson.
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2007-10-06 9:00 AM (#79169 - in reply to #79137)
Subject: Re: Problem with kid practising


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Let him find a song he really likes and learn it at his own pace. He'll come into his own. I don't ever bother my son, Nicky. He's always asking me to teach him songs that he likes. He even shocked me and got up and played at one of the OFC gatherings. This is supposed to be fun... I know I forget that sometimes, but if the kid isn't having fun, he will never learn.
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FlySig
Posted 2007-10-06 11:22 AM (#79170 - in reply to #79137)
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Originally posted by FlySig:
if Andrea's family are churchgoers, a youth ministry band is an excellent suggestion for a youngster.
I was not trying to stir any pot of shit or push church on anybody. Nor would I push Atheism on anyone. Whatever anybody wants to believe is none of my business, as long as they don't try to kill me for my beliefs.
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Andrea
Posted 2007-10-06 11:44 AM (#79171 - in reply to #79137)
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Thanks for all that advice , loads of much appreciated suggestions , i have now unchained him from the piano though i am still tempted to force him listen to me playing " stairway to heaven " as a kind of fear thing .... this could be you in 30 years .... shame we dont live in Kent Paul or i might be super glueing myself to your door step for some of those free lessons !! :D
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-10-06 1:35 PM (#79172 - in reply to #79137)
Subject: Re: Problem with kid practising



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During my show biz heyday, I was practicing (primarily learning new material) and rehearsing about 20 hours a week, then performing 8 shows a week, although only about three minutes at a time, mostly in my pre-teen years. Funny thing, I don't remember having all that much passion for dance, but remember that I just couldn't get enough of my guitar. If the two (passion, what a child loves, and skill, what a child is really good at) can come together in the same activity, music, sports, art, writing, whatever, the results can be remarkable.
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LBJ
Posted 2007-10-06 5:19 PM (#79173 - in reply to #79137)
Subject: Re: Problem with kid practising


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ok. i'm still young and i think i still remember how to think like young person.
1) if you'd force me to do something - i would hate it
2) if you want to make me learn to play, you have to give something unexpected from yourself - for example: learn his favourite song, and when he'd not expect that - play it. he might catch it and might want to learn it too. and from this point way would be much easier
3) don't buy him crappy instruments for the beginning. the worst thing parent can do is buy cheap guitar for his child, because he's not sure if he will learn to play it. If he won't - you'll lose max 30-40% of what guitar is worth by selling that guitar in almost unused condition. if you'll buy cheap guitar - you won't resale it, because virtually no one wants to buy used entry-level, crapy guitar
4) i don't think religion AND music should go together at early stage. if he will want to sing for the lord, he will from his own will, not because parents ordered him to do this for his 'good'
5) even techno / dance music can be played on guitar (i don't know what kind of music he likes)
6) remeber that he has his own will and own personality, and he has the same rights that any of us here. no one should be forced to do anything only because someone else wants that person to do a certain thing.
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Gway
Posted 2007-10-06 8:55 PM (#79174 - in reply to #79137)
Subject: Re: Problem with kid practising


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try asking him what kind of music he would want to play. I was 8 years old when I took lessons, they tried to push thier music down my throat. Of course I gave up! 40 years later I'm very sorry I did. But how do you explain that to an 8 year old?
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ozwatto
Posted 2007-10-07 1:56 AM (#79175 - in reply to #79137)
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Just let him have fun with it for now. I was forced into seven years of piano lessons as a youngster and hated every minute of it. Now that I'm older I'm thinking about learning to play again.

I have a 12 year old son and a 10 year old daughter and every few months they express a desire to learn the guitar. So we fool around for a few days and then they lose the inspiration. But it's no big deal. When they're ready and really want to learn to play I'm sure they'll find the time and the desire.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-10-07 12:25 PM (#79176 - in reply to #79137)
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We forced both of my children to take piano lessons for two years from ages 6-8. No discusion about it. It was just like reading or math or any other academic subject, you had to do it weather you liked it or not and nothing less than 100% effort would be accepted. They kicked and screamed, but did it and did well. Two years TO THE DAY, they quit lessons.

Fast forward 15 years, my son graduates from university gets a job and gets his first apartment. The FIRST piece of furnature he buys is a piano. Sleeping on a mattress on the floor, eating on TV trays, but he plays the damn piano every single day. Same with my daughter, she comes home from college for xmas break and before she even unpacks or makes sure we didn't clean out her room, she's at the piano playing up a storm.

Dave
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