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Darkbar
Posted 2016-01-06 8:28 PM (#520039 - in reply to #411970)
Subject: Re: Wax



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I'm STILL waiting on your reviews of the Motorola Razr phone and the Pontiac Aztec.
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elginacres
Posted 2016-01-06 9:11 PM (#520040 - in reply to #411970)
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Waiting for a review on the guitar strap amplifier
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Meuti
Posted 2016-01-08 7:35 PM (#520067 - in reply to #411970)
Subject: Re: Wax


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C'mon guys... all this off topic. Time to get back on the track here :D Darkbar, nice youtube you got there. The medley made me melt like WAX.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2016-01-09 1:41 AM (#520069 - in reply to #411970)
Subject: Re: Wax


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Cool old thread. Here's my thought on wax... Wax is designed to "seal and protect" A guitar's wood needs to breath. There is a reason we humidify instead of dry out. It's not a piece of furniture, unless you keep your dining room table in a case. Seriously wood furniture has mass, much more than the top of your guitar. And while the neck has some mass to it, it's generally several pieces of wood glued together, that flex. Sealed just doesn't sound like a good idea to me. There's not enough wood to hold the moisture you are "locking in" supposedly by sealing it. Was will cause it to dry out and crack.

I use Dunlop 65 on my guitars. It cleans and by it's nature encourages you to microfiber the stuff off so there is no residue. On fretboards I use Dunlop Neck Oil. I don't think it's a particularly magic formula, just a lemon oil based product. I always manage to score a little sample bottle at NAMM shows and that hold me over. It takes surprisingly little to breath life back into a neck. I have picked up guitars with dry fretboards. You can tell because the fretboard width actually shrank enough to where the frets stick out on each side. Not really visible, but you can feel it. Apply fret oil a few times and after a few weeks... neck is all rejuvenated again.

I don't know what the finish is on shiny necks, but it seems like it's polish more than wax.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-01-09 12:05 PM (#520078 - in reply to #411970)
Subject: Re: Wax


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I have a bottle of the Planet Waves spray cleaner that I've had forever, which shows that I don't use it enough. I also have the Dunlop 65 and I can't tell the difference between it and the Planet Waves stuff. Both work good and, like Miles says, take a little polishing. I think most, if not all, of my shiny necks are finished with urethane and I doubt that breathes much. I just use the same guitar polish on them. I use the Dunlop fretboard cleaner for those. I used a lot of it on my UKII recently. It was really dry and soaked a lot of it up.
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Darkbar
Posted 2016-01-09 12:44 PM (#520081 - in reply to #411970)
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No matter WHAT I use I can't get that weird slime/crud from my arm off the face of my guitars. I'm not even a slimy, sweaty person, but the inside of my forearm rests there the whole time I'm playing I guess, and over time skin oils are secreted.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2016-01-09 5:19 PM (#520088 - in reply to #411970)
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Long sleeve shirt? Or a tube sock with the toes cut out?
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Nancy
Posted 2016-01-09 5:51 PM (#520090 - in reply to #520081)
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Darkbar - 2016-01-09 12:44 PM

No matter WHAT I use I can't get that weird slime/crud from my arm off the face of my guitars. I'm not even a slimy, sweaty person, but the inside of my forearm rests there the whole time I'm playing I guess, and over time skin oils are secreted.


Darkbar, try some Dawn dish soap (Blue)
It is what they use on the oil spilled animals, it is very, very gentle, and VERY good on oily/greasy substances.
I use it on everything.
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Explorer
Posted 2016-01-09 6:28 PM (#520092 - in reply to #520081)
Subject: Re: Wax


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Darkbar - 2016-01-09 10:44 AM

No matter WHAT I use I can't get that weird slime/crud from my arm off the face of my guitars. I'm not even a slimy, sweaty person, but the inside of my forearm rests there the whole time I'm playing I guess, and over time skin oils are secreted.


On coming back home from gigs and playing out in the summer, and finding that weird stuff on the edge of the soundboard, I just lay a damp rag on it for a bit while doing something else, and it then easily comes off. I don't time it, but 10-20 minutes should do it. if it only removes part of it, repeat the damp rag bit. It saves your guitar from unnecessary scrubbing.

I was told years ago that a lot of cleaning would be easier if people just used patience while waiting for plain old water to dissolve certain things. It's been good advice.
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Meuti
Posted 2016-01-09 6:51 PM (#520095 - in reply to #411970)
Subject: RE: Wax


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Nice how this old thread got revived about the ax wax again: It does have a weird name and little is known what exactly it's made of, but it really worked it's magic for me. As I said, I recently had two really old and f'ded up guitars, that were hanging on my wall for ages. Especially the fretboards looked terrible. After rubbing the ax wax, letting it suck in for a while and polishing it out the fretboard came out like new. I wish I would have taken some before and after pics now... Anyways, I'm pretty sure it would have worked just as well with Dunlop 65 or any lemon oil. The point is though that actually a very small effort is needed to make our babies shine again. 

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FlySig
Posted 2016-01-11 9:42 PM (#520158 - in reply to #411970)
Subject: Re: Wax



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My Patriot has a well loved finish. No major issues but plenty of pick haze and similar small surface hazing. I don't dare polish it with abrasives any more than I already have, as the finish seems paper thin to begin with. A decent wax job really makes it shine like new. I don't wax the back of the neck or the headstock.
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