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Help w/adjusting the action on a Preacher bolt on neck

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E.Sherman
Posted 2005-02-13 6:37 PM (#168017 - in reply to #167992)
Subject: Re: Help w/adjusting the action on a Preacher bolt on neck


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Indeed. I'll take a look at it. Really, I don't mind if I make the pickup imobile. I don't move it around at all, the sound dosent change much. Not nearly as sensitive as my Strat.

Considering the guitar is essentially out of commission right now, I'll have to check it out when I get time.
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1Way
Posted 2005-02-19 7:03 PM (#168018 - in reply to #167992)
Subject: Re: Help w/adjusting the action on a Preacher bolt on neck


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Location: Northern Indiana
Eric,

Ok, if you don't mind setting the pickups into a more or less permanent location, then I suggest the nonstandard procedure of securing the pickups from the bottom of the PU cavity to the bottom of the pickup/assembly itself. You could insert some sort of spacer in there, perhaps a wooden spacer and place that into the cavity pit and then put the pickup assembly onto that. It will keep the pickup from going too far away from the strings, and the adjustment tension spring should push the pickup towards the wood block to make it stable against the bottom of the PU cavity. That way you only need to worry about having the springs stay put, which seems like a fairly easy task.

You would likely need to test several heights until you find the one that works best for you. I would determine the ideal location of each PU. Then with some tape, mark the height of the PU where it is even with the top of the pickguard. Then, after carefully removing the pick guard, I would determine the thickness of the pickguard and add that thickness to the taped height indication (downward towards the guitar) so that you can then base the proper height of the PU by the readily available top of the guitar using a straight edge of some sort without having to keep reinstalling and removing the pickguard each time you make an adjustment.

I don't know what is the best way to secure the block. I suppose that if you made the block to fit fairly closely or fairly tight to the size and shape of the PU pit, then you could just slip it down in there and then just let the PU spring do the rest by pushing the entire PU assembly downward against the PU cavity, keeping everything secure.

If you end up not replacing the adjuster screws, perhaps you should put then in a safe storage place that will always stay with the guitar.

Checking the input jack should be pretty simple, although I never did that on that guitar, as it never gave me any issues. After the pickguard is off, if you do not have easy access to the jack, I would loosen up the exterior nut that holds the jack in place, and then slip the jack out of it's interior position for up close inspection. Then you can check the connections for integrity. Of course, you also need to check the wires that come from the jack to make sure the other end is also properly secured. It is possible that the jack itself needs attention. You might clean it with some alcohol wipes of some kind, and make sure the retention spring works properly, not too loose, not bent out of shape. Also make sure that the ends of your cables are clean as well.

You were playing it, now it's out of commission. Sounds like perhaps you'll end up having the opportunity to do the needed repair work. I'd guess that it should not take much more than one evening, if all goes well, probably less unless forming the PU spacers takes some extra time to complete.

I hope this proves helpful. I hope school is going well for you. Best wishes.
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E.Sherman
Posted 2005-02-20 3:57 PM (#168019 - in reply to #167992)
Subject: Re: Help w/adjusting the action on a Preacher bolt on neck


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Ok, thanks for the tips.

By the way, I know I said I owed you a song with the preacher, but I do have two uploaded recently done with my Strat. At least it's something, I guess.
Song numbah 1
Song numbah 2

Cheers.
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E.Sherman
Posted 2005-02-20 4:38 PM (#168020 - in reply to #167992)
Subject: Re: Help w/adjusting the action on a Preacher bolt on neck


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All right I took five mintues to open it up and check it out. It seems teh screw and/or screwhole is stripped, so I grabbed some scraps of wood fromt eh garage, broke them up into little, rough rectangles and put them on the bottom of the pickup cavity. It seems to be at the right level.

I broke a string (strangly while unwinding) so I think I'll clean it all up and get some new strings.

As for the input jack, nothing really seemed to be wrong...I read somewhere that old, low quality cables's groundign or sheilding or soemthing can come loose. Given that both of my old cables are right angle, old, and cheap, and the fact that my new cable works fine with the guitar, I'd say I don't have to much to worry about on that front.
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1Way
Posted 2005-02-20 6:38 PM (#168021 - in reply to #167992)
Subject: Re: Help w/adjusting the action on a Preacher bolt on neck


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Wow, interesting stuff. How did you do the drums on the second song? I like the transitions and overall composition, plus the various guitar chord rhythm parts was cool. I'm more of a more traditional blues based rock genre, so your style of music is fairly different than mine.

How many instruments were used in each piece? How many tracks? How many people on the recordings? I agree that the vocals could have been a bit higher in volume, but I can see you wanted a predominantly subtle (almost spooky) vocal track, neat stuff.

Why do you post after and with the admin, are you the admin also?

I am suspicious of placing more than one spacer in there if each spacer is not pretty much the full size of the cavity. If you set multiple wedges in there that are not each stacked on top of each other, then they could eventually move around and dislodge things. Maybe I did not understand your description correctly.

I'm glad to be (casually) staying in touch. Keep up the good work!
:cool:
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E.Sherman
Posted 2005-02-21 6:19 PM (#168022 - in reply to #167992)
Subject: Re: Help w/adjusting the action on a Preacher bolt on neck


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Nah the 'spacers' are just scraps of wood stacked on top of each other. I checked it out and they hold fine. But, 30 years from now when they pry it from my dead hands, they will find a little suprise in there. My friend has an old Ovation electric bass and when he opened it up he discovered that soem repair work had been done with duct tape, of all things.

No, im an admin, it just so happens that another guy on there is named Erik. I'm Eric.

Drums I found...somewhere off the internet. I got the drums, bass, and electric in one, and minus the drums and add a 12 string for the other. Number of tracks...for Radio, mabye 3 or 4, for Ramona, like 5 or 6.

I wouldn't worry about ir genre-wise. I listen and compose in a huge variety.


Mabye I should start a new thread. :D
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1Way
Posted 2005-02-28 5:32 AM (#168023 - in reply to #167992)
Subject: Re: Help w/adjusting the action on a Preacher bolt on neck


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You mean the drums are real and you play them or that they were found off the internet and downloaded like software, or? If so, what program do you use?

My latest is that I have a solid deal forming on a Marshall JCM 800 combo that I am about to get! In the mean time, I've been playing on this little walmart solid state bass amp with an effects pedal for distortion and it sounds pretty poor, I can't wait to upgrade!!!
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1Way
Posted 2005-03-21 5:01 PM (#168024 - in reply to #167992)
Subject: Re: Help w/adjusting the action on a Preacher bolt on neck


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I still wonder if you played an actual set of drums, or if it was a digital drum machine thing.(?)

I finally got the amp, and it is so cool. Had fun last night jamming. Great tone and distortion, very loud, very heavy too. A really great match for the SG.
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