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Capturing the Best "O-Tone": How?
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| dobro |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 2120 Location: Chicago | Does anyone have wisdom about getting the perfect Ovation sound in home recording? We have a digital rig and a mic (AKG) but never mixed the two. How is this done? Line in alone can be a bit sterile. Mic alone is very woody and "unplugged".... How do the pros do it? For example, I am amazed by the beauty of DiMeola's tone on "Rite of Strings" and "World Sinfonia".... | ||
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| alpep |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10583 Location: NJ | point the mic down the fingerboard and use the pickup feed also mix the two until they sound right for you | ||
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| an4340 |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389 Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | What kind of recorder do you have, casette? 4 track? Do you have a mixer? | ||
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| Tupperware |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by dobro: In the studio DiMeola used a Taylor. How do the pros do it? For example, I am amazed by the beauty of DiMeola's tone on "Rite of Strings" and "World Sinfonia".... Dave | ||
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| Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | You need to attend the OFC recording workshop. Homewood Suites, Windsor Locks, Ct, Friday 18th. | ||
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| Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by dobro: First you need a $1.5m studio. Throw in $20g or $30g of equipment, a studio engineer with 20 years experience... you get the idea. :cool:How do the pros do it? For example, I am amazed by the beauty of DiMeola's tone on "Rite of Strings" and "World Sinfonia".... | ||
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| Weaser P |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5332 Location: Bluffton, SC | Originally posted by Paul Templeman: That's cold, man.You need to attend the OFC recording workshop. Homewood Suites, Windsor Locks, Ct, Friday 18th. | ||
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| Tupperware |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | Actually the forecast is pretty good. | ||
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| Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | Slight chance of showers, highs in the 60's. Sounds like home. | ||
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| an4340 |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389 Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | I've got a tascam 4 track 2 channel casette recorder. I suppose you could mic one channel and plug-in for the other. It would fun if you added compression to one channel, and than added high end equalization for the other. My tascam is more of an idea gatherer, or studio prep, than a studio recorder. It works for my needs though. Or just plain plug in and use an aphex exciter, which functions, to my ear, as compressing the bottom end and than filling in details in the upper end. The combinations are endless. | ||
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| dobro |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 2120 Location: Chicago | Thanks fellas. Rick, I don't know exactly what rig my buddy (Jeff Burns) has, but it's a one channel, unfortunately. We are thinking of getting a mixer and trying to do exactly what you suggest. What's an "aphex exciter"? | ||
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| FlicKreno aka Solid Top |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491 Location: Copenhagen Denmark | "What's an "aphex exciter"? http://www.aphex.com/pedals.htm Actually.first of all,invest in a good digital mixer-recorder,a decent (inepensive say 60-70 usd)condensor mic,two would be better,a couple of cables,couple of stands,and you are in business,well,that is,there`s a lot to learn,here`s a good place to start... http://www.kevinkemp.com/homerecordingtutorial/ ...it can be great fun,and keeps you away from bars and other sorts of trouble... BTW ..made a new composition that you want to record with "fire" Gregg ...?.. :) Vic | ||
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| an4340 |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389 Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | We had a posting a while ago on the exciter, and PT gave a better explanation of it than I could. | ||
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| dobro |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 2120 Location: Chicago | Hey, Vic, send me the PDF (or MP3): maybe we could learn an OFC original! EXCITER: Is it anything like the Magicstomp or A2 1U? | ||
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491 Location: Copenhagen Denmark | (Q Gregg ) " Hey, Vic, send me the PDF (or MP3): maybe we could learn an OFC original! EXCITER: Is it anything like the Magicstomp or A2 1U? " ( Just got back from Gregg`s site..) Yeh Right Prof., as if I would Dare to put myself in your league.. :) Look Gregg,honestly,if you are considering recording on a "serious basis", and I gather that you are,than I would say.... Study the Subject First,that Site ( KevinKemp) is a Good one to start with,otherwise,you might be spending tons o`money,many of those Digital Wonders have Built In Effects,that are rather Good,if you buy stomps/pedals now,only to find out later that your mixer/recorder already has them ...!!..but regarding the EXITER,well it is a combination of sorts(compressor/limiter),APHEX is just one of the companies who make those,but again,many of those Digital mic./rec. machines have that "built in"..of course,you can allways buy "better" ..read ,"mucho dineros"....MUCHO !!....look at that Site first,..it Will give you an Idea of what you really may want to Have/Need/Use... ..and I really would like to play with you,but allow me to become a Virtuoso first.. :) Vic :cool: | ||
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| Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | Studio Central is an excellent site devoted to home studios frequented by pros. Lots of good reading here. | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | mike it and go direct and mix them. | ||
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| FlicKreno aka Solid Top |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491 Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Hey Gregg, What is that in the BackGround...Marshall 1/2 Stack...??..is that what you are recording of.. Vic :cool: | ||
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| dobro |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 2120 Location: Chicago | Dig the Marshall, right? The club we've played this year (Sotto Jazz at La Piazza) has nice equipment, including a Godin nylon, keys, and that amp. If you look closely at some of the photos on www.guitarsoffire.com you will see that we are playing through our Bose L1: another thing we found on THIS site, checked out, bought and really like. | ||
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| Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | Check out the new version of the L1. Saw it at Frankfurt. Power Stand is smaller and lighter and now has an outboard mixer/effects processor, with reverbs, parametics, Bose presets etc. The outboard is compatible with the earlier L1 | ||
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| dobro |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 2120 Location: Chicago | "The outboard is compatible with the earlier L1" Wow, now THAT is cool. The one gripe we've had is that the original format offered no basic reverb. Gotta check out the outboard mixer/effects processor! | ||
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| FlicKreno aka Solid Top |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491 Location: Copenhagen Denmark | ...I do not know that Bose L1...how does it fit with that Marshall Stack (which is Basically meant for Electric ?!)..( Use P A myself).. Vic | ||
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| an4340 |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389 Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Bose system has had previous threads ... But as I recall, for acoustics, this system has been reported as being great. I can't remember how it works with electrics, I assume you'd have to color your sound with a pedal or maybe a line PODxt. I've found the PODxt to give a very acceptable model for electric amps, so I don't see why it wouldn't work. | ||
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| Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | The way to go with the L1 and electric guitars is to use a high-quality low-powered amp and mike it. I use a little 20watt Class A tube amp and a Hughes & Kettner Redbox speaker compensated DI. Or as Rick figured, you could use a modeller. The L1 has presets for the POD. While I'm out for the tour I'm going to pick up one of the new Boss Fender amp modellers and see how that works with the L1. They do 2 models a 65 Blackface deluxe and a tweed Bassman. | ||
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Capturing the Best "O-Tone": How?