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alleghenymountains
Posted 2008-03-26 10:59 PM (#47813)
Subject: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861


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Well, long story short I ran into a new LX balladeer for about half of what you would pay for one on any of the big box stores online. I like it, it's pretty cool. For a hundred bucks more than the imports I got a nice USA Ovation. Stays in tune and sounds sweet hooked up. Any one have any experience with this geetar?
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-03-27 12:04 AM (#47814 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861


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Lots of people here have LXs. I've played them at GC, but haven't owned one. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Welcome and stick around. There's a guy across the line from you named Al. He has Lost Art Vintage. You should visit him sometime.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-03-27 12:54 AM (#47815 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861



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Good Choice.

Welcome! :cool:
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BT717
Posted 2008-03-27 7:10 AM (#47816 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861


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I have an LX Elite. It's what started this uncontrolable "O" G.A.S. that I have developed.
They are nice guitars!! :)
"O", Welcome!!!
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Aaron T.
Posted 2008-03-28 1:33 AM (#47817 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861


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Hello all, another newbie here. I sort of stumbled on a Balladeer (1861-LX) too and thought, it was finally time to get my first Ovation, the price, like alleghenymountain's, was just too good to pass up. I do have a question about the pre-amp. Are the OP Pro and OP 20 pre amps interchangeable? When I looked online the 1861 comes with the OP Pro pre but my guitar has the OP 20 pre and while it fits, it doesn't seem to work. Thanks in advance for any help!

T.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-03-28 10:24 AM (#47818 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861


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I don't know if there is a way to check whether older 1861s ever had the OP20, but I thought they just were used in Celebrities. There must be someone around you that has an OP Pro that you could try in there. It should fit in the hole, it's just a question of whether the electrical connections line up.
Welcome to the board. We have several members from the LA area that should be able to help you out.
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FlySig
Posted 2008-03-28 11:09 AM (#47819 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861



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Aaron, welcome aboard. The best way to get a correct answer is to take a few digital photos, write down your serial number and model number, and contact customer support at the factory, aka "The Mothership". They can give you the straight story if no-one here can.
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Aaron T.
Posted 2008-03-28 1:19 PM (#47820 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861


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This is a great space. Thank you guys for the warm welcome. I'll do a little research and report back.

T.
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alleghenymountains
Posted 2008-03-28 4:32 PM (#47821 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861


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The Balladeer non LX doesn't it have an op-50?
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Aaron T.
Posted 2008-03-28 10:34 PM (#47822 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861


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Okay got the right pre-amp today and it works fine. The Balladeer LX model that I have actually uses the OP-Pro Series pre-amp. While others fit the slot, it appears the electrical connections do not line up on them.
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Aaron T.
Posted 2008-03-28 10:38 PM (#47823 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861


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Does anyone know about the history of the various pre's and how good the OP-Pro is in comparison? I do know it was designed by Al Dimeola and Melissa Ethridge but that's all I know.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-03-28 11:10 PM (#47824 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861


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Try a search on this site, in the Archives. Seems like someone did a fairly technical comparison of the specs of a couple of the preamps a year or so ago. There's a little bit on the Ovation site.
I like the OP Pro because I can see the tuner. The earlier ones the print is too small.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-03-28 11:22 PM (#47825 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861



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Aaron T... Welcome! :cool:

OP-PRO and OP20? ... Mmmm :rolleyes:

I don't have an OP20, but I have an OP30 and an OP-Pro...

The connector on an OP-Pro has eight contact tabs in a rectangle...

The connector on the OP30 has six contact tabs.

I am sure that I could switch them size-wise (but I don't wanna fry a diode)... The contacts would not line-up!

If you look inside the pre-amp hole, and see eight shiny contacts in a slot, 4 top/4 bottom, then it should be an OP-Pro.

And if the contacts don't line-up on your OP20, that is why it won't work.

Not to be rude, but the OP20 is a pretty basic pre-amp with a tuna.
About equal to the OP4BT...

Mothership wouldn't put that on an LX... Why put a cheapie pre-amp on a top-of-the-line Ovation?
Someone switched it.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-03-29 12:34 AM (#47826 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861


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OMA, it sounds like whoever Aaron bought it from gave him the right preamp. Is that right, Aaron? Hope so. Stop researching and go play it. For what little I use them, all the Ovation preamps are great. The preamp on the OFC seems to put out the most volume, even though it looks like the old 2 knobbers.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-03-29 2:18 AM (#47827 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861



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Scuze me, Aaron... I got distracted (for a long while) while typing the above message. I didn't see that you had gotten the correct pre-amp until after I posted, then I had to run before I could edit...

Anyway, I am happy that you got yerself a nice Balladeer... LX no less.

We will be waiting for pics...
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alleghenymountains
Posted 2008-03-29 2:49 AM (#47828 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861


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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Lots of people here have LXs. I've played them at GC, but haven't owned one. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Welcome and stick around. There's a guy across the line from you named Al. He has Lost Art Vintage. You should visit him sometime.
I checked out Lost Art Vintage. Needless to say, woooh. You guys are going to get me hooked on Ovations aren't you?

And the lightweight super-shallow bowl, that's just splendtastic.

I didn't get a case for that guitar, now beat me up over it, but I realized the people at the place of purchase were about as witty as a rotten zucchini. I tried but they said, dude, the tag says it doesn't come with it.
I was basically the only one in the store and the two guys that acted like they were working asked me within the span of oh ten minutes, "so dude, where are you from?"
This shop is two hours away and I was in that city that day, so hence I went.
The nice shop here has tons of acoustic guitars and a room of the sacred Taylors, Martins, Gibson, Larivee, etc..
No Ovations though, and the only other place here that has them always has low end in.
Although they have a 1984 Collectors that only has one ding on the headstock for 899.99. Otherwise it looks like it is brand spanking new.
So needless to say I was super run down by the time I got there and wasn't arguing with someone over a case at that point.

So, do Ovation hard-shell cases have to cost 120?
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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-29 4:22 AM (#47829 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861



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Welcom aboard New folks, from another LX dude.
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FlySig
Posted 2008-03-29 10:16 AM (#47830 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861



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Originally posted by alleghenymountains:
You guys are going to get me hooked on Ovations aren't you?
OK, one last chance. Run, now, like your ass is on fire!

Originally posted by alleghenymountains:
The nice shop here has tons of acoustic guitars and a room of the sacred Taylors, Martins, Gibson, Larivee, etc..
No Ovations though, and the only other place here that has them always has low end in.
If I only had a nickel for every time someone posted that story on this forum!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-03-29 11:16 AM (#47831 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861


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Check with Al at Lost Art Vintage about cases when he gets back from Amelia. He had some very slightly used cases a few months ago.
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Aaron T.
Posted 2008-03-29 6:18 PM (#47832 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861


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No worries OMA, I did most definitely get the correct pre, and an apology lol. Will post pics soon!
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Aaron T.
Posted 2008-04-04 11:18 AM (#47833 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861


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Was trying to upload a pic of my new Ovation 1868 LX but didn't see an upload button. Help anyone?

T.
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G8r
Posted 2008-04-04 11:41 AM (#47834 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861


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Originally posted by Aaron T.:
Was trying to upload a pic of my new Ovation 1868 LX but didn't see an upload button. Help anyone?

T.
Follow the instructions in this thread.
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Aaron T.
Posted 2008-04-04 10:44 PM (#47835 - in reply to #47813)
Subject: Re: 1st ovation lx balladeer 1861


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Will do. . .
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