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Location: On The Fringe Of Ground Zero | I am familiar with acoustic guitars that are all wood in composition. Over time as the wood ages the sound mellows. Does the same hold true for Ovations? |
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Location: Vernon CT | I wouldn't say the sound "mellows", It gets better!!! |
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Location: Jet City | Slinger, it's the guitar's top that counts. Ovations "open up" just like any other guitar. |
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Location: On The Fringe Of Ground Zero | Thanks! :cool: |
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Location: Vermont USA | Does the same hold true for the Adamas?
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Location: Winter Haven, FL | Originally posted by Paulcc1:
Does the same hold true for the Adamas?
Pauly If it's a carbon fiber material, it won't change over time. That's part of the stability of carbon fiber. If you don't like the sound in the beginning, pass on it...carbon fiber will never open up. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | I thought this was going to be about replacing batteries in hearing aids...  |
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Location: Jet City | What about a CBG? Does a cigar box top open up? |
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Location: Tennessee | Originally posted by KPaul:
Originally posted by Paulcc1:
Does the same hold true for the Adamas?
Pauly If it's a carbon fiber material, it won't change over time. That's part of the stability of carbon fiber. If you don't like the sound in the beginning, pass on it...carbon fiber will never open up. |
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Location: Winter Haven, FL | Originally posted by stonebobbo:
Originally posted by KPaul:
Originally posted by Paulcc1:
Does the same hold true for the Adamas?
Pauly If it's a carbon fiber material, it won't change over time. That's part of the stability of carbon fiber. If you don't like the sound in the beginning, pass on it...carbon fiber will never open up.
I don't have any research to back up my claims, just what I was told by the guys at CA when I was researching the purchase of a Legacy. I didn't see it as a bad thing as I liked the tone, so I did buy it...but their explanation for why it wouldn't open up made sense to me. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | But the ADAMAS has a Laminated Top ...a Sandwiched Wooden Top , the Wood would cure too , would n`t it ?
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Location: Winter Haven, FL | Originally posted by HumblePie aka Solid Top:
But the ADAMAS has a Laminated Top ...a Sandwiched Wooden Top , the Wood would cure too , would n`t it ?
Vic If it was exposed to air, I would say yes. My understanding is that the opening up of a top is a result of the vibrations from the strings, and the aging of the wood working together to influence certain areas of the soundboard to become more supple. This in turn causes it to be more influenced by string vibrations, causing it to be louder and more responsive. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | They do age some, particularly if they are really played. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | A wise man once said... "Yes, they do open up, but you have to play them" or something to that effect. |
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Location: On The Fringe Of Ground Zero | I played a few Rainsongs and the sound plugged and unplugged just didn't get it for me. I've also owned a few Steinbergers electrics here it's the electronics not the wood. |
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Location: Jet City | Don't forget the best electric guitar known to man was not wood at all.
The UKII. |
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Location: Jet City | OK, the best electric guitar known to me is probably more realistic.
That damned Hamer thread is killin me. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I previously read somewhere on this forum an explanation about tops opening up that really made sense to me. I think it would likely apply, in varying degrees, to just about any guitar top. Think of it as a piece of cardboard. When cardboard is new, it is stiff and difficult to bend. However, bend it back and forth a few times, or many times, and the stiffness dissolves and the cardboard becomes quite flexible. Since guitar tops vibrate, the more they vibrate, the more flexible they become, and the more easily they vibrate, which relates directly to tone and output. More than anything else, this cardboard analogy explained this "opening up" principle to me. I'll leave it to the engineers to validate the accuracy of the theory. |
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| Leave it to the Professor. Good analogy, since cardboard is made of cellulose fibers, as is wood. |
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Location: new jersey, u.s.a. | me duh! until i came across this topic, i had never even heard of the term "opening up" in reference to why the guitar sound changes as the instrument ages. so, i really like proffesorbb's analogy. info. like this, really helps beginner's like me. |
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Location: Tennessee | Originally posted by Damon67:
What about a CBG? Does a cigar box top open up? Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
Think of it as a piece of cardboard. When cardboard is new, it is stiff and difficult to bend. However, bend it back and forth a few times, or many times, and the stiffness dissolves and the cardboard becomes quite flexible. Since guitar tops vibrate, the more they vibrate, the more flexible they become, and the more easily they vibrate, which relates directly to tone and output. Sounds to me like the answer is yes. After a few years and a lot of smoking licks, you'll think a Tiparillo is as good as a Montecristo No. 2. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by stonebobbo:
you'll think a Tiparillo is as good as a Montecristo No. 2. Not in my lifetime!  |
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