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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Not sure I've ever seen one of these . . .
http://cgi.ebay.com/Ovation-Adamas-with-Factory-Hard-Case_W0QQitemZ... |
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Location: NJ | It's the Adamas Edsel. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Take the strings off, prop it up in the corner, and throw bean bags at it. First one in the hole wins a beer. Dave |
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Location: NW NJ | Only seen these in pictures - never played one. Is it really that bad? |
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Location: NJ | It's the "Tits on a Nun" Adamas. |
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Location: Up North | What's the problem with it? |
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Location: Upper Left USA | It defeats the purpose of using the Carbon top and multi-hole setup to maximize the soundboard area.
Opinions range from no biggy to highly mediocre. I imagine it holds its own but doesn't do what the Multi-hole Adamas' do.
At the right price I'd consider it. Edsel may not be a good comparison since the Edsel actually had several innovations, just lacked public approval. This is somewhat of a step backwards.
More of a "Hillary" than an "Edsel".
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Location: Up North | So why wouldn't the thinner carbon top soundboard perform better than a wooden-top Legend? Is it just a style thing or am I missing something?
Were these built for the overseas market?
I'm puzzled, and a little concerned, considering I'm currently high bidder. |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | So does it come with the carbon fibre dog?? |
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Location: NJ | It's a fine guitar (I guess).
I can't say that I recall hearing one, but I guess (at best) it has an extremely "stable" top.
I just kind of see it as defeating the purpose in which it was designed.
Kind of like designing a nuclear submarine, and then refitting the portholes with Pella windows . . . |
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Location: Upper Left USA | 
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That's been done too!
Ah, the sixties...
My Opinion, under $700 - sweet! Adamas neck and quality! |
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Location: SoCal | My opinion, under $700 --- you can do better. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I'll jump to the defense here. I'm so self centered and biased that I usually poo-poo anything that I don't personally own (or want to own). But this little bugger has my interest. I think the "purpose" of this guitar was to be able to offer an instrument that had some of the advantages of the SMT without necessarily looking like one.
What you get is a guitar with great neck and electronics, excellent stability and immunity from fickle temp/humidity changes. And in a package that does not look like an electric lollipop.
I've played one. Is the unplugged sound very impressive? No it ain't. In fact it sucks. Worse than a normal SMT. But that's not what it's made for. Tit's on a nun? Yeah, but even nuns have 2 hands and appreciate something to do when the other one is busy driving the 'lectric stick.
If you wanted a good gigging guitar without the gay fig leaves, this might actually be it. Put a big bum-plug in the soundhole and I'd perform with it.
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Location: NJ | ". . Put a big bum-plug in the soundhole and I'd perform with it. . ."
If ONLY Witko had a nickle for everytime he's uttered those very words . . . . |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | And Cliff thinks that the slow hanging curveball was accidental ... |
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| The 6591/w591 has been trashed so much, I'm just getting more curious as to how it would sound, maybe with a standard D tuning and the applicable strings...if I had the bucks I would buy it in a heartbeat...they made a few of these in the bronzeburst finish as well.. |
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Location: NJ | ". . And Cliff thinks that the slow hanging curveball was accidental ..."
Just batting cage practice, . . . that's all. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by MWoody:
Something about that picture didn't sit right though, so I went looking for a screen shot:
Also stumbled on some interesting observations and comparisons between the Seaview and the Trident missile subs of the day:
The Seaview's cathedral ceilings were a bit higher than the cathedral ceilings found in most Trident submarines.
The Seaview's picture windows were a bit wider than the picture windows found in most Trident submarines.
The Seaview's king-size bunks were a bit bigger than the king-size bunks found in most Trident submarines.
The Seaview's 78 degree breaching angle was a bit steeper than the standard breaching angle of most Trident submarines.
The Seaview's shark tank probably would not have been standard equipment on most Trident submarines.
The Seaview's shark tank did not spill any water during its 78 degree breaching maneuvers. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I grabbed a pic off of www.alltheweb.com and I realize it must be of a proto or design model. Cool show.
My favorite parts were when they had to wear gold Lame' suits to manually shut down the Reactor! TF
Funny, they never showed the Enchanted Forest!
About this guitar - there's a lot of talk and opinion in the archives. |
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Location: Wooster, Ohio | "It defeats the purpose of using the Carbon top and multi-hole setup to maximize the soundboard area."
Interesting logic, you put down this guitar for it round hole on the adamas platform, yet when they put x bracing on the elite lx and thats ok.
What bracing did they use on this guitar? If braced correctly you should be able to have a graphite round hole that works. Did they just not pull it off well?
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Location: Boise, Idaho | If you go back to the development of the Adamas, the concept was that cutting a hole under the strings took out a chunk of the soundboard right where it was needed for vibration and strength. Also the graphite top allowed the soundboard to be thinner so it vibrated more. With the 1537, they found out that the soundholes in the shoulder worked well with wood and started the Elite line. That could just as well have remained the wood topped Adamas. Going back to a center hole Adamas ignores one of the essential purposes of the origin of the Adamas guitar. |
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Location: Tampa, FL | I owned one for a couple of years and used it for my church guitar.
It was how I found this forum a while back.
Acoustically, I played it side by side to the 2005-ES and a ca. '74 Balladeer for about 6 months. I spent an evening with a UTE at GC about the time I was selling my 6591. My take on it as an owner...
Not a huge difference between the UTE and the 6591. UTE was louder, both did not appeal to me as much as wood tops. The bracing seemd to be a variation of the A bracing scheme. The 6591 was pretty near bullet proof. All my wood tops have dings. Some of my wood tops have cracks. My personal favorite guitar for acoustic sound is my '81 Legend with a monster crack. After that it would be my FUD and 1768-C. My 2005-ES gets regular use mainly because it has the XLR connection (I love XLR).
Back to the 6591. I found it to be somewhat thin sounding. Very tonally pure without a lot of the harmonics I associate with a wood top. I think the only real slam you could give this guitar is that it might not be as loud, acousitcally, as other Adamii. Tonewise, it was accurate, stayed in tune. Add to this the fact it was a nobrainer to plug in (did I mention that I love XLR) and you have an excellent gigging instrument. I kind of look upon it (and all Adamii that I have played) as very nice guitars for electric guitar enthusiasts that want a reasonably acoustic guitar to augment their stage arsenal. It was also pretty nice for fingerstyle. It is the purity of the tone that did not suit me. Might be similar to the general concensus that, when plugging in, you want a touch of delay and chorus. Something to fill out the sound a little.
At the time (2003) I paid about $550, delivered, for mine and sold it for about the same a couple of years later.
Tup said it well. If you want a pretty conventional looking, worry free, road worthy guitar, the 6591 isn't a bad choice. The Optima is a great preamp. If you're going to use it as a strummer, you're probably going to want to touch up the sound some. If you're going to use it for fingerstyle or lead, you might find it acceptable as is.
BTW, the mid bowl was pretty comfortable. I've found the deep and contour bowls less comfortable to play, but I think they're worth the effort. |
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| By the way, The 6591 sold for $999.68
Haven't seen one go that high in quite a while... |
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Odd Adamas model?
