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LBJ
Posted 2007-07-27 2:53 PM (#88609)
Subject: resonator conversion - multi soundhole


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Hi.
anyone did that? I want a resonator. And i'm not pleased with sound of my CP2002, so... is there possibility to convert it to resonator? anyone have ovation elite-resonator ? ;]
if not, then this guitar will go for sale along with other guitars i own, except legend.
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seesquare
Posted 2007-07-27 3:04 PM (#88610 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole


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Been there, done that. 1132 Matrix conversion. Pretty time-consuming, and tricky to get right. Sell it, and buy a decent resonator. "Path of least resistance". As a matter of fact, shoot me a PM. I may have a solution for you.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-07-27 3:13 PM (#88611 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole


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Yep, been there, done that. Bought a half-assed 1117 Dobro conversion on Ebay, and fixed it so it works properly. Check my gallery for pics. It can be done, but as Seesquare says, it's not easy. I would only attempt it with something trashed, not with a servicable guitar. The geometry of the guitar is crucial. If the neck set is shallow you'll only be able to play it lap-style. There's plenty affordable resos on the market, sell the CP2002 and buy one of those instead.
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LBJ
Posted 2007-07-27 3:51 PM (#88612 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole


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i don't know what do you mean by shallow neck.
it's very thin (about 38mm nut width) and i don't have any experience with dobro.
i just want to give it a try.
i think i'll make some mayor changes in my guitar collection in august-september, and dobro is on my wish list.
I think the only guitar which will last is my Legend. i don't want to spend more than $3000 on all - and i want to buy Godin LGX electric, new acoustic amp, multieffect (probably Line6 PodXT), electro-classical guitar, resonator and 12-stringer, if funds will allow me to do this.

and yeah, i want dobro just for fun.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-07-27 4:20 PM (#88613 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole


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I think he means that the action is low. But I speak American, not English, I've been told.
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Beal
Posted 2007-07-27 6:40 PM (#88614 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole



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I'll go along with sell it and get what you really want rather than mucking this one up and then trying to sell the mess to get what you really want.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-07-27 7:01 PM (#88615 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole


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Originally posted by Little Boy Jefferson:
i don't know what do you mean by shallow neck.
Not shallow neck, shallow "neck set". Neck set refers to the angle at which the neck joins the body.
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2007-07-27 8:02 PM (#88616 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole



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Since you're going to mess it up anyway, use a vintage hubcap on this one so at least it will look good hanging on the wall while you play the real one.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-07-27 8:13 PM (#88617 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole



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Not to stop you from having fun, but...
You do realize that guitars aren't worth as much after you screw them up?

Like Bill sez, you might wanna just sell what you don't want (instead of destroying it), and buy a National Dobro, if that's what you want...
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-07-27 8:52 PM (#88618 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole


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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
and buy a National Dobro
That would be a National or a Dobro. Each has a different design, and a completely different sound.
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Beal
Posted 2007-07-27 8:56 PM (#88619 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole



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He could always get a Gibson Fender.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-07-27 11:58 PM (#88620 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole



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I stand corrected :confused:
Both are brand names...
Dobro is not a generic term for a resonator...
[sheesh :mad: ]

So, Get a National, or a Dobro...
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seesquare
Posted 2007-07-28 1:15 AM (#88621 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole


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Hmmmmm.......tough crowd. But, good advice.
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cliff
Posted 2007-07-28 3:04 AM (#88622 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole


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I'll follow the consensus of Sell/Get.

Awhile ago, I'd gotten a ChaiKnees-made "dobro" from Al for a REALLY good price!! I "jacked-up" the action for lap-playing with the Pearse steel that MasterTempleman left me with (along w/some quick lessons). One of the local shops around me have the exact guitar ('cepting it's square-neck) for sale. You could probably get one of these (and a Quarterman cone t'throw in it) for just a little more than the proceeds from the Ovation sale . . .
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LBJ
Posted 2007-07-28 5:33 AM (#88623 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole


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ok. so i'll follow advices and i'll just get rid of this guitar among others and look for resonator. I've heard that resonators made in Czech Republic are good and not so expensive, so maybe i'll get one.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-07-28 5:46 AM (#88624 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole


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The Czech Republic was the first to produce affordable steel-bodied resonators, long before the Chinese got into it. Some of the Czech stuff is superb. Amistar and Lebeda both produce excellent instruments in the National and Dobro styles. Interesting that the Dopeyras who invented the resonator guitar back in the 1920's were Czech immigrants.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-07-28 8:22 AM (#88625 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole


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Originally posted by Captain_Lovehandles:
Since you're going to mess it up anyway, use a vintage hubcap on this one so at least it will look good hanging on the wall while you play the real one.
:D
Capt. now you owe me a keyboard, and a half a cup of coffee.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-07-29 3:01 PM (#88626 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole


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Originally posted by Captain_Lovehandles:
Since you're going to mess it up anyway, use a vintage hubcap on this one so at least it will look good hanging on the wall while you play the real one.
You mean like this?

Pogreba Resonator
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-07-29 5:03 PM (#88627 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole


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Capt. now you owe me a keyboard, and a half a cup of coffee .
And a new pair of shorts and a rug...thats dangerous on us "old Farts"! lol... :eek:
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seesquare
Posted 2007-07-29 5:41 PM (#88628 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole


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Rambler 'cap, eh? OK, anybody have an Edsel version? I'm inspired now!
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dobro
Posted 2007-08-16 9:22 PM (#88629 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole



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I'm not for sale (well how much are we talking about?)
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-08-16 9:44 PM (#88630 - in reply to #88609)
Subject: Re: resonator conversion - multi soundhole


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Dobro Q : "I'm not for sale (well how much are we talking about?)"

Greg,how about a Bagel,Juice and I`ll even throw in a Hot Towel and a Fakirbed.. :)

Vic
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