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fishchick72
Posted 2007-08-31 10:46 PM (#83687)
Subject: Capos?


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I am curious about these. What exactly is it that you do with them. I mean I see them fitted across the fret board, but I don't really understand what it does.

Any info would be much appreciated.

And what capos fit ovation guitars??
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Jeff
Posted 2007-08-31 10:59 PM (#83688 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?


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The capo allows you to raise the pitch of the open strings, thereby allowing you to play in one key, while actually fingering in another. For instace, if a song is in in the key of Eb (which isn't a very guitar friendly key), you can place the capo at the first fret and do the fingering positions for D, but since you've raised the pitch a half-step, you're actually playing in Eb; or, put the capo at the third fret and play in the same key (Eb) by using the C position fingering. It's sort of like having the ability to move the nut up and raise the pitch of the guitar at the same time.

I know that's not a very "technical" explanation, but I hope it makes some sense. As for what capos are best for an Ovation, you'll get several recommendations, but FWIW, I use Kaisers myself.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-08-31 11:34 PM (#83689 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?



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I got a Planet Waves NS Capo. I like it... Alot. It has no spring, so it isn't quick cange. But it is nice and light, and small, and adjustable, so you don't have to cut grooves in your frets. You can get them for about $15 (shipped) if you shop around.
More info


Smarter members will give you advice on their usage... :rolleyes:
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cholloway
Posted 2007-09-01 1:44 AM (#83690 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?


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From Wikipedia:

A capo (short for capotasto, Italian for "head of fretboard") is a device used for shortening the strings, and hence raising the pitch, of a stringed instrument such as a guitar, mandolin or banjo. It was invented by the Flamenco guitarist Jose Patino Gonzalez.

Basic capo...


Educational, Huh!
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muzza
Posted 2007-09-01 3:54 AM (#83691 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?



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I use a Shubb.


but a lot of 'pros' (a description that would exclude me :( ) use Kaisers for their quick change ability. They work like a clothes peg and you often see them attached to the headstock when not in use.



I have also been known to use the pencil and rubber band method

Whatever works.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-09-01 6:42 AM (#83692 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?



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I use a capo a lot since I tune down to D.

Shubb, Kyser, Planet Waves, Paige, Dunlop are all pretty good.

I've not tried the G7 but have heard it is the BMW of capos. Priced like it too.

Lately I've been using "The Glider" a gift from Trader Jim. With it you can use your thumb to move the capo up and down the fretboard. :cool:

BTW; I think we all have used the pencil and rubber band method.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2007-09-01 8:38 AM (#83693 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?


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Whatever works.
Exactly!

:D
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2007-09-01 9:40 AM (#83694 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?



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Tried 'em all, and I've stuck with Shubbs.
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an4340
Posted 2007-09-01 10:23 AM (#83695 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?


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Shortens scale. I use them so I can play familiar chord shapes on other parts of the fret board, but change key.
I use shubbs.
I really recommend the Denier (sp) guitar handbook and the Guitar Player:Repair guide by erlwine (sp). They both have a lot of info you might find useful. And you'll save yourself a lot of time wondering how to do stuff. I wish someone had told me about them when I started. (though I think at that time they didn't exist!)
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-09-01 2:22 PM (#83696 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?



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The pencil-trick works best on Classical flat necks...

For a standard neck, I recommend a PaperMate Flexgrip pen. It bends to the contour of the fretboard. :rolleyes:
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fishchick72
Posted 2007-09-02 1:06 AM (#83697 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?


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ok, this may be a stupid question, but how do you know WHERE to put it for WHICH key & how do you know what fingering to use for the chords with it like that? Is there a way to get this information in a simple straightforward fashion? Am I just dumb? It seems a bit complex to me............
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fishchick72
Posted 2007-09-02 1:07 AM (#83698 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?


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Originally posted by an4340:
Shortens scale. I use them so I can play familiar chord shapes on other parts of the fret board, but change key.
I use shubbs.
I really recommend the Denier (sp) guitar handbook and the Guitar Player:Repair guide by erlwine (sp). They both have a lot of info you might find useful. And you'll save yourself a lot of time wondering how to do stuff. I wish someone had told me about them when I started. (though I think at that time they didn't exist!)
I do have a "guitar handbook" that is full of info, some of it a bit complex for me at the moment, but I will have to look into these as well.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-09-02 2:09 AM (#83699 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?



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Just trying to be helpful...

Using a Capo

The Unappreciated Art Of Using a Capo

eHow to use a Capo
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fishchick72
Posted 2007-09-02 4:06 PM (#83700 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?


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I'll check those out, thanks!
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surfnguitar
Posted 2007-09-03 8:52 PM (#83701 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?


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Another benefit of capos is, if you have a crappy voice like mine with no range, and can't ever hit the "high" notes -by raising the pitch with the capo, you actually lower the key you're playing in, at least in terms of your voice. Someone else who knows more about music than me can maybe explain how this works. All I know is, if you find yourself straining to sing a song in A minor (standard tuning), just pop the capo on about the 4th fret, and voila! -your puny voice can handle it. Likewise, if it seems to low for your voice to work, try about the 2nd fret or so -whatever works -and you can make your voice more flexible than you ever thought it was. Plus, if your buddies know a song in a certain key and you know it in a different one, play around with a capo, until they match up. Saves re-learning a song with different chords.
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Styll
Posted 2007-09-03 11:24 PM (#83702 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?


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I use my capo faithfully...I would be lost without it :)
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-09-04 11:37 AM (#83703 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?



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I've gotten away from using a capo over the past six months, maybe only once a month or so based on the picking style required for a particular number. One problem is that I forget its there and then "Surprise!" when the next number begins. I have a Shubb, Kyser and several others, but prefer the Victor. Its simplicity and single screw tightener works almost as fast as the Shubb and Kyser. It was interesting to watch Glen Campbell use a capo when he came into town. My recollection is that he used a D chord fingering pattern and adjusted the capo accordingly to fit the key.
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gh1
Posted 2007-09-04 12:22 PM (#83704 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?


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Originally posted by fishchick72:
ok, this may be a stupid question, but how do you know WHERE to put it for WHICH key & how do you know what fingering to use for the chords with it like that? Is there a way to get this information in a simple straightforward fashion? Am I just dumb? It seems a bit complex to me............
Well, it is pretty easy, ONCE you know your fretboard. So you really have to start there. The CAGED system is a good start -- look it up on the web, there's lots of good introductions to be found.

If you are playing some pop tune in the Key of A, for example, odds are the chords you are playing are A D and E. Which are the I, IV, and V chords in the key of A If you want to change to the Key of C you put your capo on the third fret. The I IV and V chords in the key of C are C F and G.

Why? Because the A chord SHAPE [oo222o] moved up to the third fret [335553] produces a C chord.

The E SHAPE [o221oo] moved up to the third fret [355433] produces a G chord.

The D SHAPE [xoo232] moved up to the third fret [x33565] produces the F chord..

Hope that helps.

_____
gh1
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fishchick72
Posted 2007-09-04 1:38 PM (#83705 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?


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Interesting, thanks, I'm gonna have to look into that more. I'm not real clear on different keys & chords that go with what keys...............
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ignimbyte
Posted 2007-09-04 2:23 PM (#83706 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?


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Originally posted by surfnguitar:
Another benefit of capos is, if you have a crappy voice like mine with no range, and can't ever hit the "high" notes -by raising the pitch with the capo, you actually lower the key you're playing in, at least in terms of your voice. Saves re-learning a song with different chords.
Very good point and I agree.

I learned how to play Shawn Colvin's "Sunny Came Home" in A minor; standard tuning. But there's no way I could sing them high notes, so I placed the capo in the 4th fret, and still played it in Am. Lo and behold, despite my singing in a low pitch, the guitar accompaniment matches my vocals very well. :)

Strange but it works...
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fishchick72
Posted 2007-09-05 3:51 PM (#83707 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?


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I bought a book of music by David Crowder & at the beginning of the songs it gives you pointers like "tune down 1/2 key" or apply a capo to 3rd fret, etc. And I want to play around with one & see what it can do. So I am planning to get a capo soon. Probably on Friday or Monday I'll try to get one.

Should I take my guitar with me to make sure I get one that fits right??
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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-09-05 4:09 PM (#83708 - in reply to #83687)
Subject: Re: Capos?



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Get a Shubb and it will fit.

The Planet Waves NS is pretty good also.

If you have a lot of $$$ get the G7.
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