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Spider Paul
Posted 2005-12-06 3:59 AM (#272056)
Subject: Korean Balladeer?


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Hello America
Can anyone give me any information on my Balladeer. The labels say "Made in Korea" but I can find no reference to this model ever being made in Korea.
Thank you
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LeStrange1
Posted 2005-12-06 12:06 PM (#272057 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?


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bump
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-12-06 12:18 PM (#272058 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?


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Balladeer are USA made. If yours was made in Korea, it's a Celebrity (or Applause)...if you have a model number you can determine which...
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alpep
Posted 2005-12-06 12:25 PM (#272059 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?


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jeff incorrect for a short time the balladeer was made in korea. probably 3-6 months about 4-5 years ago. I am not exactly sure. John Budny or Kim Keller would probably know for sure
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-12-06 12:41 PM (#272060 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?


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no sh*t.....
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alpep
Posted 2005-12-06 12:59 PM (#272061 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?


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what the hell do I know? I am just an idiot that sells gear for a living
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-12-06 1:27 PM (#272062 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?



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4861 Balladeer was made in Korea for about six months...same material.

SerNo 398626 was made in 1989.

Excellent work, great guitar, usually see a small discount from US made.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-12-06 1:40 PM (#272063 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?


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I thought I had seen one with a label that said Balladeer inside, just like some of them say Celebrity. I have been known to imagine things, though. Did the Korean Balladeers have a Balladeer by Ovation label?
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-12-06 2:01 PM (#272064 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?



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yep
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Beal
Posted 2005-12-06 3:25 PM (#272065 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?



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The 4 in front is the clue
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cliff
Posted 2005-12-06 3:36 PM (#272066 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?


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. . . as is the faint air of kimchi inside . . .
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Spider Paul
Posted 2005-12-06 5:37 PM (#272067 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?


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Thank you for your help. 1989 then?
Label say "Ovation Balladeer, Model 4861, A Kamen product Made in Korea". Serial no is 1417077. Stamped on the inside back Ovation USA.
Great guitar, more than happy with it - strange what washes up on these shores.
Thanks again
Paul
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-12-06 10:19 PM (#272068 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?


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One just popped up on ebay by gravity music out of Denver. Speak of the devil! A 4861 with the Balladeer by Ovation label.
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2005-12-07 5:52 AM (#272069 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?



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They show up pretty regularly. I seem to end up with at least one 4861 per year. The ones I have had don't compare directly with an 1861 in quality, though. It is worth noting that Ovation marketed them simply as 'Balladeer', not Standard Balladeer. The features are different.
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stephent28
Posted 2005-12-07 12:54 PM (#272070 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?



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It always amazes me what type and quality of gear pops up at Gravity Music. They are a really small shop located in a decent but not good part of the city.

I try to drop in on them every 2-3 months. Good people and usually give decent descriptions of what they are selling.
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2005-12-08 8:42 AM (#272071 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?



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Gravity Music offers eBay auctions of high quality and fairness, and they come up with some great guitars on a regular basis.
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BruDeV
Posted 2005-12-08 4:22 PM (#272072 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?


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Note: they don't combine shipping charges even if they send stuff in the same box.
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Spider Paul
Posted 2006-01-30 9:17 AM (#272073 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?


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Having seen a new Balladeer advertised on ebay [co.uk]as made in Korea. I assumed that this was an error - probably a 1989 guitar. Questioned the seller, who insisted he was correct. Searched the Intenet. Found no information but did find several dealers selling new Balladeers, made in Korea. I doubt that they will appear in the US where prices are lower on home produced instruments but in England they are joining the market at a price just above to the upper range of Celebrity. Also informed that Country Artist also now being made there. Any more information?
Cheers Paul.
Just added a '79 Legend to my collection and am awaiting delivery.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-01-30 10:05 AM (#272074 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?


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There's been a Korean Celeb version of the Country Artist for some time - model CC049S-4C. This is in addition to the current USA version. You can see it on the UK distibutors website

http://www.jhs.co.uk/ovation.html#ca
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mk64
Posted 2006-01-30 10:25 AM (#272075 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?


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I had wondered why the one on ebay started so low...thought it was seller's oversight....mike :)
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Alaskan Fly Guy
Posted 2006-01-30 3:56 PM (#272076 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?


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I have one of these Made in Korea Balladeers as well. I was told that Ovation sent all of the materials, parts, and pieces to Korea to contiue the line while the Ovation facilities here in the US were being upgraded. After the upgrades they brought everything back and continued here. Nothing from an official source, just what I was told.
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Spider Paul
Posted 2006-01-31 4:13 AM (#272077 - in reply to #272056)
Subject: Re: Korean Balladeer?


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I was aware of the 4861 from 1989 [thanks to this board] but I was suprised to find that they are again being made 4771 in Korea. Is the above expanation for 1989 or/and 2006?
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