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Location: WV | I was looking around eBay for a case for my new toy and came across this beauty.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7310250435&...
Now I am by no means a collector. However I think that if I had an extra $600 or $700 lying around it would be better served spending it on something else. Is it common for people to spend this kind of money on a case? Just curious. |
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Location: Tennessee | Having seen people pay as much as tens of thousands for a strat or tele of that vintage, I'd say it's a relative bargain for somone in need of a pretty decent vintage case if they need to complete their package. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I think it is wishful thinking on the sellers part. That particular case looks to me like it is just an ordinary case from the '70s.
Usually, a case that sells for a lot of money is one that fits a specific guitar that has an odd shape or came with a special case....Gibson L6-S would be a good example....or even the Ovation cases for the old solid body guitars. |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | That's the no logo version that was from about '64-'65. That is why it is pricey.
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Location: NJ | there is a guy that comes to the philly guitar show. he buys a guitar and immediately parts it out selling the neck, body, pickups, tuners, knobs, electronics and case separately.
he makes more money than people selling the entire item.
I am in the wrong mindset of the wrong business |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | "What a terrible thing to have lost one's mind. Or not to have a mind at all."
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Ok, I'll bite. How can you tell it's a "Fender" case. It looks like any of the numerous Made In USA cases I have from the 80's. Looks like it could fit a B.C. Rich Seagull just fine. |
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Location: Orange County, California | SAomone would have to verify it's age by "smell". I'm happt to say my OFHC is "developing" quite nicely... |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | ''...Ok, I'll bite. How can you tell it's a "Fender" case..."
The Fender cases from this period were the same as the next version (from '66 to about '72) with the excetion of the logo being added. Everything looks right on this one; the tolex, curves on the edges, binding, lining and hardware. No reason to suspect it isn't what the seller says it is.
Earlier cases from the '50's can go for three or four times that much.
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I'm certainly not questioning what the sellaer claims it is, just trying to learn. I am sitting here with a 78 B.C Rich case. Other than the shape of the foam on the inside obviously, it looks identical to this one down to the shaped of the little metal pieces on the edges and such. No logo, no markings etc... so I was just wondering in the big scheme of things, how one can id this as a "fender" case. I do supposed the string markings in the top of the inside is a good id, or at least a good id of what was in the case anyway.. I was wondering more if there was a stamp, or other id someplace that led it toward Fender. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | My point earlier Miles.
To me it looks exactly like some of the cases I have from the '70s that don't have any logo or markings. How does one prove this to be a "Fender" case versus the one I have that I know isn't one? |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Miles, the inside orange plush lining IS a big clue. This was used from the period of the case in the ad (1964ish) until the late seventies. Other than the logo (or lack thereof), there is very little difference throughout this fifteen-year period.
To address Stephen’s point, there were never any American-made Fender guitar cases made after 1966 that didn't have a Fender logo on it somewhere;
There was the no-logo from '64-'66, the logo with tail from '66 to about '71, the logo with no tail from '72, then the logo with the "R" for "registered", no tail and Made in USA form the late seventies onward for years.
Here is a pic of the three styles. Disregard the top example as that one was used in the tweed cases of the fifties.
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Ahhh,
I believe my cases have black or red, but no orange. So basically if you see a case with orange lining and all the rest of the hardware and such is similar, it's a Fender case. FYI I assume the were also actually made by G&G, is that correct? |
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Location: WV | Since I started this I might as well chime in again. I thought the $699 was outrageous. I stand corrected.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41409&item=7...
Now I used to deal in vintage and collectible cameras to some degree. I know the value of some things to collectors. But I really think these cases are off the charts. I will keep checking just to see if they sell. BTW-I have recently acquired a set of used strings that I'm sure came from a 1940's era Gibson. How do I know? They are not marked, they look just like the strings I saw in a 1946 Gibson ad, and there are six of them. Well 5 3/4 really. The G string is broken. Yet another indication of their collectible status. No reasonable offer refused. ;) |
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Location: NJ | look at it this way.
the guitar is worth 10K.
It does not have an original case.
it is worth 8K
then you would pay 2 K for the right case |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | "...How do I know? They are not marked..."
I have owned quite a few vintage Fender cases over the years and do know what they look like. Some of them actually had something in them!
The old Fender stuff has gotten crazy over the last few years, though. I sold one of the tweeds like the one in the second ad for about $350 in 1999. I sold two '63 Strats in 2000 and 2001 for prices that have since more than doubled in value. I also sold an all original 1954 Strat complete with case, strap, cord, bridge cover and tweed Deluxe amp...I don't wanna even think about that one any more. :(
Miles, you may be right about who actually made them...I'm not sure. I think for a period in the Fifties they were made by a company called Koylon.
To add a bit to the vintage case confusion, in the late fifties to mid sixties, Fender guitars were exported to countries such as Canada and England without cases. They were then fitted in-country with cases that were similar but not the same. In Canada they were supplied by Peate Case Co. of Montreal and in England they were from Selmer. So sometimes you see an old Fender guitar for sale with a case that doesn’t look quite right but may be totally original to the guitar.
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Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | this is one raggedy case!....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7316227362&...
(I guess $38 I paid wasn't bad for a ratty old Ovation hardshell case! :eek: )
Wayne, did your '54 sell for more than this '58?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7316113547&... |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | I'm afraid not, Trboy. I sold it in pre-internet (at least for me) 1995 for less than half that. The prices have absolutely skyrocked since then. There was a 1954 Strat that sold on Ebay 2 or 3 weeks ago for $35,000.
I do still have an old '54 Strat "poodle" case (were made only for a couple of months before the tweeds ones came out) that I keep the '53 Tele in, but no Strat.
I know, Cliff, I know! :)
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Location: Houston, Texas | Originally posted by Bluebird:
Miles, the inside orange plush lining IS a big clue. This was used from the period of the case in the ad (1964ish) until the late seventies. Other than the logo (or lack thereof), there is very little difference throughout this fifteen-year period.
To address Stephen's point, there were never any American-made Fender guitar cases made after 1966 that didn't have a Fender logo on it somewhere;
There was the no-logo from '64-'66, the logo with tail from '66 to about '71, the logo with no tail from '72, then the logo with the "R" for "registered", no tail and Made in USA form the late seventies onward for years.
Here is a pic of the three styles. Disregard the top example as that one was used in the tweed cases of the fifties.
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Hi Rick;
Nothing is writen in stone but what I mentioned above is basically correct, give or take a little.
It is possible your guitar was sold with and older store stock case...not period correct but original to the guitar.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Unless it's an original Vee in which case (so to speak) the case is worth $20,000-30,000. There are people who will pay $150,000 for the guitar but it has to have an original case. No original case, no sale because it's highly likely that the guitar is a forgery. |
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Is this common?
