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Carl in LA
Posted 2012-12-01 9:15 AM (#462645)
Subject: PSA for ebay GCXT - several


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not mine...

wish I could buy all of them... except the snake skin...

http://www.ebay.com/sch/silkybrain/m.html?item=251192822616&pt=Guit...
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aaronharmon
Posted 2012-12-02 8:40 AM (#462670 - in reply to #462645)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several


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Just a heads up. I don't know who the seller is but he is using at least one picture of my guitars in each of those listings. Those 3 Flames on the wall together are mine. I posted the pics here a year or two ago and he must have lifted them. I don't know why he's using pics of my guitars in his auction but it definitely raises questions. Especially since all three are still here in my possession.
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FlySig
Posted 2012-12-02 11:47 AM (#462674 - in reply to #462645)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several



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Thanks for the heads up on the questionable pics!

How about the single pictures? It is difficult to tell but the orange flame appears to be the same guitar. Though the flame pattern is very consistent across the 3 different colors so maybe it is not possible to tell by the flame pattern alone.

Edited by FlySig 2012-12-02 11:51 AM
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stephent28
Posted 2012-12-02 11:55 AM (#462675 - in reply to #462645)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several



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Aaronharmon, you should report it to ebay along with sending the seller a message asking why he is using your pictures to sell guitars.



Edited by stephent28 2012-12-02 11:56 AM
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FlySig
Posted 2012-12-02 11:56 AM (#462676 - in reply to #462645)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several



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I am interested in one of those guitars but for now I am very cautious. The backgrounds and style of all the pictures are different, not the way I would have taken pictures of my collection if I were taking pictures at the same time. Anybody have contact with this seller?
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aaronharmon
Posted 2012-12-02 2:00 PM (#462679 - in reply to #462645)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several


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The orange guitar by itself is not mine. Just the 3 pictured on the wall side by side. I would be surprised if any of those pictures were actually his at this point though. My main question is, if you own the guitars and they are in pristine condition as you say they are, why use pictures of someone elses guitars to sell them.
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aaronharmon
Posted 2012-12-02 2:03 PM (#462680 - in reply to #462675)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several


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stephent28 - 2012-12-02 12:55 PM

Aaronharmon, you should report it to ebay along with sending the seller a message asking why he is using your pictures to sell guitars.



Is there any rule against using someone else's photo? Ebay uses stock photos all the time. He never explicitly states the the guitars pictured are the ones being auctioned. If you are sure it's a violation, tell me and I'll report him.

Aaron
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aaronharmon
Posted 2012-12-02 2:05 PM (#462681 - in reply to #462645)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several


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P.S. here is where he got the picture of the orange one http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1566243&goto=...
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stephent28
Posted 2012-12-02 2:33 PM (#462682 - in reply to #462645)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several



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Well, I would certainly consider it a deceptive sales practice to offer something up for sell but not show pics of the actual item.

I have seen this done before where they wii have a disclaimer stating that the photo does not represent the actual item. I have also seen eBay remove listings where the seller was offering up an item with misleading photos of an item which they did not own (such as the guitar photos).

Why do you suppose that someone would post photos of a guitar they do not own while trying to sell?
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stephent28
Posted 2012-12-02 2:38 PM (#462683 - in reply to #462645)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several



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When buying a guitar on eBay or any other online site, I always ask the seller to provide me with a picture of a specific area of the guitar. If they can't or won't, I run away.

Just my personal philosophy but I have never been burned by an online equipment purchase.
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aaronharmon
Posted 2012-12-02 2:48 PM (#462684 - in reply to #462645)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several


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I sent him this message...

"You are using pictures of my guitars in your auction. It don't really mind that you are using them, but I think it is a little misleading. Please include a disclaimer stating that the guitars in the photos are not actually your guitars otherwise I will have to report you to ebay.

Thanks

Aaron"

Let's see how he responds
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FlySig
Posted 2012-12-02 3:46 PM (#462686 - in reply to #462683)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several



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stephent28 - 2012-12-02 2:38 PM

When buying a guitar on eBay or any other online site, I always ask the seller to provide me with a picture of a specific area of the guitar. If they can't or won't, I run away.

Just my personal philosophy but I have never been burned by an online equipment purchase.


Good idea. I just requested some photos of the one I am interested in.
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Stuart Miller
Posted 2012-12-02 4:52 PM (#462692 - in reply to #462645)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several



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More evidence for the "be wary: pile. I thought I recognized the guitar background and the C779LX USA Flag picture originates from here I suspect:

http://www.adirondackguitar.com/accoustics/Ovation/usa.htm

Still has the tags on in the EBay pic just like the store pic. They are closed today so no idea if the item is still for sale at the store, but the website says its still for sale.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2012-12-02 5:56 PM (#462694 - in reply to #462645)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several



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The Purple Tribal Flame came from my post in THIS OFC THREAD
He just turned it 90 degrees once for the second pic.

The Snakeskin came from HERE

The Red GCXT on the Red Blanket is Damon's pic.
The pic in the case is MINE from Damon's thread
Along with having EVH playing it, he claims that it is #45/200 with a serial number of 606534... (2006)
My GCXT is 117/200 and was made in 2004 with a 582xxx serial number.
All of those details sound good. But they are wrong. As is the description of what a GCXT is.

Apparently all those photos were found by reading OFC Threads.
Just saying.... DON'T BUY IT!
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FlySig
Posted 2012-12-03 8:09 PM (#462743 - in reply to #462645)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several



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So far no reply on my request for more photos of the flag guitar. I believe these auctions are not real. At the very best he has no pictures of the actual guitars, so buyer beware the guitar you get is not the one in the picture.
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FlySig
Posted 2012-12-03 8:19 PM (#462744 - in reply to #462645)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several



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OK I reported all those guitar auctions to eBay as suspected of being fraudulent.
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aaronharmon
Posted 2012-12-03 11:55 PM (#462746 - in reply to #462645)
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Yeah, hes not responding to my emails either. He's had two days. Gotta be a rip off.
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Guitsome
Posted 2012-12-04 6:32 AM (#462749 - in reply to #462645)
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My office is in the same town that this seller has listed. I'll also send him an email to see if he'll let me come over and check them out. I haven't seen these on CL either.

Edited by Guitsome 2012-12-04 6:43 AM
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aaronharmon
Posted 2012-12-05 8:08 AM (#462768 - in reply to #462645)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several


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Looks like he updated his listing.
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Guitsome
Posted 2012-12-06 6:36 AM (#462788 - in reply to #462645)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several


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I received no resonse from him either. I even asked if I could pick them up to avoid unnecessary handling from shipping as well as shipping charges, should I win any of the auctions. It's confusing why someone wouldn't post original pictures, especially with guitars like those. Who knows, maybe he doesn't own a camera.
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FlySig
Posted 2012-12-06 10:28 AM (#462795 - in reply to #462645)
Subject: Re: PSA for ebay GCXT - several



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He responded this morning that he is travelling in Chicago and unfortunately cannot send me any pictures.

Gotta be a scam.

Is there any other way to notify ebay? The form I found doesn't allow for giving any info other than selecting a preset option of suspected fraud.
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