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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-14 5:49 PM (#49472)
Subject: getting rid of "pings"



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This maybe a topic solely for UKII folks.

My UKII has developed a case of the "pings". You know, when you go to tune it, and right before you hit the perfect pitch, you hear the "ping" and it takes you beyond?

It'a a brass nut, that's why I'm saying it may just be for the UKII folks out there.

It's probably the nut, right? It stays there, even after a string change. I think it's the D or G string
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an4340
Posted 2008-03-14 7:21 PM (#49473 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"


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Try a drop of graphite?
Try different strings?
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-03-14 7:26 PM (#49474 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"



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Try taking an old which ever string it is and run it back and forth through the slot and see if you feel any roughness.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-03-14 7:43 PM (#49475 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"
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I've read that a bit of graphite in the nut slots may help.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-03-14 7:53 PM (#49476 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"


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The nut slot has worn out, not uncommon with brass, it's a relatively soft metal. Short-term fixes - get some graphite from an HB pencil, grind it into a powder and put it into the slot, you'll need to repeat this every time you change strings. A better bet is graphite-based firearm lubricant paste or buy some BigBends Nut Sauce which is the same kinda stuff for guitars but a lot more expensive.

Medium term fix - shim the nut up just a hair and re-cut the slots.

The real fix. Ditch the brass and have a bone nut installed
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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-14 7:54 PM (#49477 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"



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I use Dean Markley Custom Lights on pretty much all the electrics. I doubt it's the string's fault.

A drop of graphite? Would they have that at a music store?

I'll try the string thing Capo Guy. If there seems to be a rough edge, I'll end up bringing it to a local shop. What will they do, take a file to my UKII? :eek:
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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-14 7:56 PM (#49478 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"



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Paul, you posted same time as I.

I'll try the lube/graphite first I think.

I don't want to lose that brass nut.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-14 7:58 PM (#49479 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"



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I wonder...

You think the Mothership might have a nut floatin' around still?

Or....

MILES????
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-03-14 8:12 PM (#49480 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"


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Originally posted by Damon67:
I don't want to lose that brass nut.
Why not? It was a late '70's fad, no other Ovation solids had a brass nut. Apart from being cheap, available and easy to work, brass has absolutely no advantage over traditional materials like bone or good synthetic bone substitutes like Corian, Micarta or Tusq. There are good reasons why hardly anyone uses brass nuts anymore.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-03-14 8:26 PM (#49481 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"


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In my line of work, brass nuts (big ones) are a good thing.....
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-03-14 8:31 PM (#49482 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"


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Mr Moody... the master of the single entendre.
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colt357
Posted 2008-03-14 8:33 PM (#49483 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"


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Oh...so this isn't about golf?
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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-14 8:39 PM (#49484 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"



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Originally posted by colt357:
Oh...so this isn't about golf?
Not if I started the post. I have a hard time when i get to the Windmill. Timing is everything. :D

I have to contemplate the nut issue. I spose it's not invasive, and it can always be swapped back later, right?
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-03-14 8:41 PM (#49485 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"


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Right.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-03-14 9:06 PM (#49486 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"


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How about doing it the FENDER -way , use a tiny drop of acid -free oil ( in between Nut -String )

Vic
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-03-14 9:22 PM (#49487 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"



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As to Graphite... You can get some relatively cheap graphite at Home Desperate (or some such hardware store) for lubricating Locks. It'll come in spray, but they should have some liquid sh... uh, stuff ['scuse me].
Or get the spray, and spray it in the cap that came with the can. One purchase oughta last you a lifetime.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-03-14 9:24 PM (#49488 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"


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It needs to be in paste or gel form so it stays put. Sprays and oils just run right out of the nut slots.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-03-14 9:26 PM (#49489 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"



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Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
It needs to be in paste or gel form so it stays put. Sprays and oils just run right out of the nut slots.
My bad...
[did I just use that cliche? :mad: ]
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-03-14 9:40 PM (#49490 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"
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Quite a while ago I was given a nozzle-tipped small tube of graphic that was in some type of 'suspension'. It was used for locks during wintertime up 'yonder'. Maybe that would help you.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-03-14 10:11 PM (#49491 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"


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A small amount of " lip -balm " instead of - 3 in 1 oil - works wonders....

Vic
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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-15 1:53 AM (#49492 - in reply to #49472)
Subject: Re: getting rid of "pings"



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I think I'll try out the gun stuff first, cuz I love my ol' girl just the she is, but I'm still contemplating that nut replacement.

Any suggestions on a replacement?
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