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Tommy M.
Posted 2005-10-11 3:12 PM (#133862)
Subject: Cream DVD


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I saw some bits and pieces of the Cream performance at Albert Hall this week. Being a huge Cream fan,I saw them on their farwell tour in 1968. The performance at Albert Hall, seems weak, compared to my memories of them. Of course, during those days my memory wasn't very clear. One thing that stands out, is that Clapton plays his strat, during the show, and the songs just don't sound the same. Back in the days, Clapton played the Gibsons with their humbuckers, and the crunch gave Cream their sound, especially during the long solos. Somehow the single coil sound just doesn't cut with the Cream. I wish he still played Gibsons.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-10-11 3:32 PM (#133863 - in reply to #133862)
Subject: Re: Cream DVD



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Or at least a Fat Strat.
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alpep
Posted 2005-10-11 4:41 PM (#133864 - in reply to #133862)
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if you think the dvd sucks you can always send it to me.
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Beal
Posted 2005-10-11 4:54 PM (#133865 - in reply to #133862)
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I agree with the strat/gibson theory. He should be playing a Hamer. Look at the bright side, at least he's not playing a Henry guitar.
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beatlejuice53
Posted 2005-10-11 5:37 PM (#133866 - in reply to #133862)
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I agree with cwk2 on boh counts. I'd be happy to loan him my Hamer Suburst (ser#361) as long as I can be there with it.
Bill
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schroeder
Posted 2005-10-11 5:39 PM (#133867 - in reply to #133862)
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He is so totally a different guitar player than he was nearly 40 years ago that it was a ridiculous gig to do. He hasn't had the fire in his belly since the heroin put it out. And those active pups are neither one thing nor the other.
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alpep
Posted 2005-10-11 6:24 PM (#133868 - in reply to #133862)
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some people use drugs.

I am a drug.

pass the morphine this way please...
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Tommy M.
Posted 2005-10-11 11:05 PM (#133869 - in reply to #133862)
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Al: What the hell does that mean? Are you dazed and confused?
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BruDeV
Posted 2005-10-12 12:21 AM (#133870 - in reply to #133862)
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phazed and defused?
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NostrAdamas
Posted 2005-10-12 5:45 AM (#133871 - in reply to #133862)
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And how about Ginger Baker! Does he look like hes eight hundred years old or what?
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alpep
Posted 2005-10-12 7:33 AM (#133872 - in reply to #133862)
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i'd take an 800 year old ginger baker over an 800 year old lars ulrich any day
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schroeder
Posted 2005-10-12 7:48 AM (#133873 - in reply to #133862)
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Comparative Putrefaction, 101. What a great course that was. Anybody else remember it?

BTW al, do you trade guitars for morphine? I just got a new 6 week supply so are we talking FolkloreLX? Shipping and Insurance included.
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Beal
Posted 2005-10-12 9:57 AM (#133874 - in reply to #133862)
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now there's a deal....
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amstphd
Posted 2005-10-12 12:46 PM (#133875 - in reply to #133862)
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Ginger Baker always looked 800 years old. . . or dead.
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Jeff
Posted 2005-10-12 1:44 PM (#133876 - in reply to #133862)
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Originally posted by schroeder:
He is so totally a different guitar player than he was nearly 40 years ago that it was a ridiculous gig to do.
I heartily disagree. Has anyone here actually seen the DVD?

I just watched it this morning from beginning to end, and anyone that thinks Clapton has lost his fire need only to check out this DVD... IMHO, he hasn't lost a thing! I agree he's a different player these days, but different in a good way because he's more versatile now than he ever was back in the day. But this new DVD proves he can still "do it" when the occasion calls for it.

I not only came away with a refreshed perspective of Clapton's abilities as a player, but I also believe the Strat may well be the most versatile electric guitar ever made. Whether it's his active electronics or whatever, I thought he got a nice thick, beefy sound that befitted their set list just fine. I didn't think there was anything "thin" about his tone at all.

In the interview portion of the DVD, Jack Bruce mentioned that they tried early in the rehearsals to replicate their sixties sound by using Marshall stacks, EB-1 basses, and presumably, Les Pauls to handle the guitar duties, but in the end, chose to go with how they sound today, which is, in a word... Awesome!

Yeah, they look older, and yes, Ginger Baker DOES look 800 years old (didn't he always), but you gotta give these guys credit for not only still having the chops, but for having the stamina at their ages to pull off many of those songs, that some would argue were nothing more than excuses for elongated jams.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-10-12 1:46 PM (#133877 - in reply to #133862)
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Like Keith Richards, Ginger Baker died about 20 years ago and nobody bothered to tell him.....
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Paulcc1
Posted 2005-10-12 2:02 PM (#133878 - in reply to #133862)
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I'm a big Clapton fan I just love his playing acoustic or electric. So even if the DVD stinks (right) I'm gonna be pleased. I saw Cream in Boston I was nineteen I haven't gotten much older.
Pauly :cool:
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Beal
Posted 2005-10-12 2:04 PM (#133879 - in reply to #133862)
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None of us are that much older, just Eric and Ginger and Keith.
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jim777
Posted 2005-10-13 9:47 PM (#133880 - in reply to #133862)
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:D

Anyway, I'd be willing to bet those old Marshall's without the Master volumes had something to do with the 60's sound as well as the humbuckers. I've always been a humbucker player myself but recently I'm falling for singles. Good singles sound great through a good amp. And a good Strat will make you change your religion!

jim
(playing each of the electrics one after another tonight!)
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Deaconstrat
Posted 2005-10-16 8:48 AM (#133881 - in reply to #133862)
Subject: Re: Cream DVD


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I am going to get the DVD today myself and I cant wait ................review to come later
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