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Location: New York, NY | Has anyone else seen this joker advertising this site (http://www.beatthemusicstore.com)??? Anyone actually buy it? He's been advertising on craigslist pretty regularly.
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Nothing new to that, about 65 % paid is shop-money, they have overheads to pay, rent..tlf.,.etc.,..we all want to make a living. :)
Vic
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Location: Omaha, NE | Stupid, but then so are some music stores.
My local outfit, which has a couple of really good sales guys, really let me down yesterday.
First, they gave me some insanely incorrect advice regarding a modeler I am considering. I'm glad I left to do more research before buying. I would have really been disappointed if I had listened to them.
But here's the kicker: I went down last night to pick up a shipping box for my Taylor (going back to El Cajon for a new pre-amp). This is a guitar that I paid over $2k for from that very store and they know that. I'm in there at least once a week, buying odds and ends.
Anyway, I tell the guy (newbie...don't know him) what I want and he goes in the back to fetch one. Brings it up to the counter and tells me "That's $15".
I'm a little dumbfounded.
"Excuse me" I replied.
"Yeah, we use these too, so we have to charge you. Its $15."
Unbelievable.
I refused to pay. He says he has to appeal to the manager. I tell him by all means. The night manager (whom I also don't know) peers over his glasses at me and says "ok, but just this once".
I got the box, but WTF?!?!? |
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Location: NJ | hmmm I wonder if I can find a way to scam his book for free. that will make him happy I am sure.
or better yet buy it scan it and post it for free on my website |
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Location: big island | vcnyls,
does this stand for "very comfortable new york life style"? |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | If anyone is that desperate for shipping boxes, let me know and I can send several. Can't imagine they'd cost more than $5 to ship empty. |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
If anyone is that desperate for shipping boxes, let me know and I can send several. Can't imagine they'd cost more than $5 to ship empty. mark
check that |
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Location: Scotland | A quote from the website - "The price tag showed $575. You want to know how much I paid for it?? $575 + tax!! That’s right, I paid full price and got ripped off big time. Knowing what I know now, that guitar should have cost me $150, if not less"
This is total crap, noone is making those kind of margins. Music industry retail markups are hardly a trade secret, and even with distributor discounts it would be impossible for a retailer to sell a guitar with a list of $575 for $150 without losing money, they would have paid more than that in the first place.
The whole tone of his book pisses me off. Almost nobody in Musical Instrument retail is getting rich (many aren't even getting by) and this idiot is suggesting that the public should demand even lower prices in an industry where competition and discounting have already cut margins to the bone. Wanker. |
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Location: Omaha, NE | The idea that someone should define a "good deal" in terms of how much profit the seller makes is just wrong, and reveals a complete lack of understanding of how business works.
Suppose someone figured out a way to make cars that were in every possible respect equal to or better than a brand new Lexus. Suppose he could sell you a car like that for $5,000, brand new.
Would you buy it?
What if you learned that his cost was only $500? Does that make the deal any less attractive?
As Paul points out, retail margins aren't that great anyway. If you really and truly think that retailers are getting 300% and 400% markups, then by all means put your money where your mouth is and buy stock in Guitar Center. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | mark
check that [/QB]
Al, you are a man of too few words and I have too many. Are you agreeing with me or suggesting that I check to see what it would really cost to ship an empty box?
SWMBO maintains a large collection of empty boxes, just in case she needs to ship something to the relatives. Lately, when I complain about it, she points out that most of the big ones are my guitar boxes, so I have some motivation to get rid of a few. It will also avoid the suggestion that I use some of them to get rid of a few guitars. |
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Location: NJ | it may be more than $5 to ship the box everyone has gone to dimensional sized shipping costs.
10 months ago? another story |
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Location: big island | mark,
if you had a smaller house, like mine, you would have no room to store empty boxes. your place is 4X the size of mine and there are seven of us living here. perhaps i should get you to send me some big boxes, then i could pack up all the belongings of the adult children who live here and have failed to launch. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I thought they may have started going by dimensions rather than weight. The only guitar I ever shipped was by weight and I think it was less than $20. That shows you why I have so many boxes.
Randy, my wife just decided not to downsize for awhile. Currently over half of our rather large garage is filled with my daughter's junk (including her car) while she tours the Northwest. Our guest room is also full of her junk. My wife's sister is moving here from Atlanta this weekend and will be living with us until she finds a place. She has 2 cats, which will add to our cat and my daughter's cat. If you want to live in our zoo instead of yours for awhile, you're welcome. It might take my wife a few days before she asks, "Who's that?" |
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Location: Detroit Rock City | If you collapse and fold the box, it won't be as expensive to ship. Empty, it'll probably get ripped up if its empty from all the other packages being thrown on top of it. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | But then I wouldn't get rid of all the packing materials. I've got another storage place above the garage. I'll put them up there or recycle them. It would be a good place to hide guitars, but it gets too hot. |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by Fleet:
If you collapse and fold the box, it won't be as expensive to ship. Empty, it'll probably get ripped up if its empty from all the other packages being thrown on top of it. that seems like more trouble than it is worth and the integrity of the box would be greatly dimeninshed if you fold it . the cardboard is what helps to protect the contents.
example put a box in a damp basement. it will turn like rubber. take a box and fold it. not as bad the the seams will give you trouble. |
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Location: Omaha, NE | Cardboard boxes lying around are an invitation to cockroaches. |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Everyone needs butter on thier bread.
I ussually don't look to steal ideams.
Fair price is a fair price.
now about those people who see the guitar case at a bar after leaving another gig who want you to play for free???
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