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richardd
Posted 2005-06-07 1:40 AM (#148469)
Subject: America DVD


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With all the DVD talk at the moment I thought I might mention a DVD I picked up the other day.

It's the band America live in Central Park in 79'.

I have the original VHS of the concert but as a major fan I couldn't resist.

It's great ! Remastered and the quality is far above the video.

Some great turtleback action. Custom Legends, Patriot, GC 12 string etc and they sound good.

Makes me wonder why so many of these guys have abandoned O's ?
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Bailey
Posted 2005-06-07 1:45 AM (#148470 - in reply to #148469)
Subject: Re: America DVD


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Richardd

Sounds like a great DVD, they were a great band.

I think more Ovations will be seen as they have been producing some great guitars that will attract some good players.
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richardd
Posted 2005-06-07 4:39 AM (#148471 - in reply to #148469)
Subject: Re: America DVD


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I think your right Bailey.I really think they've really got their act together.

BTW, I saw America last year and they were very good (Taylors boys these days) but my God they must be sick of playing Horse With No Name by now !
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cliff
Posted 2005-06-07 6:51 AM (#148472 - in reply to #148469)
Subject: Re: America DVD


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Wow!
I was AT that concert!
(think I still have a t-shirt, somewhere . . )

I'll have to LOOK for that one! . . .
thx!
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alpep
Posted 2005-06-07 7:49 AM (#148473 - in reply to #148469)
Subject: Re: America DVD


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they always seemed like csn&y lite to me.

all the college chicks loved when we played their tunes in the quad at school. Oh I remember those days sitting on the lawn, cutting classes, playing guitar.....

no wonder I look at my transcript and don't remember taking 2/3rds of the classes
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willard
Posted 2005-06-07 7:57 AM (#148474 - in reply to #148469)
Subject: Re: America DVD


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I think I was sittin' right next to Al in another state, mentally and physically. I got a degree in Biology with a minor in Botany. What can I say other than I knew how to grow things.
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cliff
Posted 2005-06-07 8:08 AM (#148475 - in reply to #148469)
Subject: Re: America DVD


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America was definitely "VelveetaRock" . . .

I just recently finished a CS&N biography, and in it the author describes how a lot of bands like America (and the Eagles) were modelled after the recent success of CS&N. The Eagles kinda took it one step further by hiring CS&N's manager, producer, engineer and photographer (Henry Diltz) to shoot their first album cover (too).

Their (America's) first two or three albums were really good. The subsequent ones got progressively slick/pop-ish, though George Martin DID produce a few really good tracks. . . .

"Muskrat Love" blew . . . . BIG time! . . . .
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-06-07 9:12 AM (#148476 - in reply to #148469)
Subject: Re: America DVD


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As a Duo they've had some pretty good stuff. I believe their last studio project was called Human Nature and it reminded me more of the old days. Alibi Rocked..adn didn't produce any hit songs, I alwasy enjoyed hearing the variety of sounds Gerry & Dewey put out as a group.
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Strummin12
Posted 2005-06-07 11:28 AM (#148477 - in reply to #148469)
Subject: Re: America DVD


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The Christmas cd they put out was NOT what I had hoped it potentially would be...

but I love the old stuff.

Johnny
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WeaserP
Posted 2005-06-07 11:40 AM (#148478 - in reply to #148469)
Subject: Re: America DVD


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This might be an unpopular view but I must say that the beauty of their melodies and harmonies were always overshadowed by their lyrics, which I never appreciated. Had a few albums and could play a lot of the material (who couldn't?) but never really fell in love with any of it.
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cliff
Posted 2005-06-07 11:50 AM (#148479 - in reply to #148469)
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Okay, . . . . bit of trivia:

What was "Sandman" about??
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-06-07 12:59 PM (#148480 - in reply to #148469)
Subject: Re: America DVD


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The answer is The Vietnam war. Those fighting in the war were afraid to sleep because they thought they would get killed.
Dewey based the song on actual conversations had with soldiers who fought there.
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karmanng
Posted 2005-06-07 1:02 PM (#148481 - in reply to #148469)
Subject: Re: America DVD


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Does anyone have the CD by Thorns? Shawn Mullins, Matthew Sweet and Pete Droge. They're right up that "America" alley. There is one cut you would swear IS America, and one that's a real tribute to Seals & Crofts. Does anyone remember being shocked when they found out that "Horse with no name" wasn't the latest Neil Young tune? Even for a minute?
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cliff
Posted 2005-06-07 1:10 PM (#148482 - in reply to #148469)
Subject: Re: America DVD


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Yeah, I got the Thorns album when it first came out . . .

Yer right . . they are (or were) to America what Rusted Root is to the Talking Heads . . . or what Blue Merle is to Coldplay . . . or what about a half dozen other bands were a few years ago to Pearl Jam . . .
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karmanng
Posted 2005-06-07 2:08 PM (#148483 - in reply to #148469)
Subject: Re: America DVD


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I remember my son playing me a new band's tune he thought I'd like. It had a hauntingly familiar sound. When I asked him who it was, he replied "Three Doors Down"
I replied - Yah, Three doors down from Pearl Jam!
Not quite next door, but certainly close enough.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2005-06-07 6:41 PM (#148484 - in reply to #148469)
Subject: Re: America DVD


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YES...I thought "Horse With No Name" was Neil Young, and boy was I surprised when I found out it wasn't.

I saw America in 1978, but I wasn't up on my guitars back then, so I haven't a clue what they played. That was after Dan Peek had left the band, though.

America's first two albums are really good...the first one is probably one of my 10 favorite albums of all time. If you like 12-string guitar, it is a MUST.

Story about "Sandman"...I will always associate the song with an incident from college. I was at a coffeehouse at a youth ministry house on campus at Indiana State University in Terre Haute, IN on a Saturday night in October, 1973.

One of the better guitar players was playing "Sandman", when a man stepped up, pushed him off his stool, kicked it over, and pulled a BIG knife(luckily the guitar player got out of there), and held everyone at bay. Just then the Terre Haute police came in the entrance.....turned out the man was an escapee from the federal prison outside Terre Haute. Thankfully the police eased everyone outside and took him into custody without further incident.

THAT is what "Sandman" will always remind me of....

Roger
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richardd
Posted 2005-06-07 7:10 PM (#148485 - in reply to #148469)
Subject: Re: America DVD


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Good story OAA.

I agree with the early stuff being the best. Nice earthy tone.They seemed to record acoustic guitars with a very warm, natural tone in the 70's.
I never really liked that 80's "You Can Do Magic" stuff with digital drums and that very processed sound.
When my band's not playing, I still do some acoustic gigs and I happily pull out my stash of America tunes
"Horse With No Name"
"Ventura Hwy"
"I Need You"
"Sister Goldenhair"
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