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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-06-20 10:04 PM (#411036)
Subject: Requesting Input of the Hive Mind


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Hey Guys,
Ok... so if someone asks you what your favorite guitar strap is and you answer immediately describing the style you have used for at least 20 years.... I need your assistance. If you grab whatever strap is available... you might as well stop reading now. :)
So my favorite "production" strap is this one. Carvin Strap For MANY years now I have wanted to get a leather version of this strap with the same features I look for... but have been unable to find one.. I finally had a strap made a few years ago, the Stingray one below. It really is the perfect strap, but as a custom strap... well lets just say it's not uncommon for the strap to be worth a lot more than the guitar its attached to.

I'm hoping one of you guitar strap nuts out there may have seen a strap that already fits what I'm looking for.. It will still likely be expensive, but if someone already has the shape.. then I'm just buying a strap, not having one custom designed.

Lets start with the part that hooks to the guitar.
Straps A and B below are what I'm looking for. Note that unlike C, D, or E, A and B use a buckle that attaches the last bit of strap with the lock to the rest rather than having the lock or hole in the strap pad itself. I like this because it acts like a hinge as the guitar moves around. Note also that unlike C, D, or E, A and B have a taper starting at the main section of the strap. The strap doesn't achieve its full width of 3.5" until roughly 9" to 11" from where it's attached to the guitar. And yes.. the preferred width is 3.5". The main part of the strap is 27" long and that 3.5" is maintained for about 15" until it starts to taper down again to the other end of the strap.


Ok, this brings us to the other end of the strap. Note again on A and B the use of the buckles and the sliding adjustment buckle unlike the methods of C D and E.


The strap is usually set to 50" from button to button, but both A and B are adjustable from about 47" to 54" and if I'm playing bass, the 54" is necessary.

Below is my favorite strap. If you are wondering why I would need another, it's that some of my guitars require the strap locks to be mounted facing the back of the strap (most common) and some require them being mounted to the front of the strap. So I would like to have at least two. I also don't think I would want to gig with the Stingray strap.


For those who don't really care what strap they grab... thanks for reading so far anyway, and yes... I admit it... I wish I was more like you.

If anyone has seen a strap similar to the "style" and "shape" of what I described above, please let me know.

Thanks

P.S. If you're from PETA, let it be known that Billy the Stingray died of natural causes.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2009-06-20 10:27 PM (#411037 - in reply to #411036)
Subject: Re: Requesting Input of the Hive Mind


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Nice straps and Good Thinkin`..

A while ago ( after tryin` this and that ) , the Solution was found ..
A strip of leather ( 2 m/m thick ) , `bout 3" wide was cut to length ( length based on what would fit me) , the ends were tapered down , a punch -plier was employed to cut one hole in front -end , and , several holes on rear -end ( distance in -between about 1 1/2 " ) , in order to accomodate several gits. , then short slits were cut into holes ( as visible in picture E ), it works fine for me , the only gripe I have is , that ( when rolled up ) it takes all the space in the access. compartment of the case .

Vic
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-06-20 10:38 PM (#411038 - in reply to #411036)
Subject: Re: Requesting Input of the Hive Mind
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Not that I can help you in your quest, but I, like you, prefer the 'long' taper.
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Beggin
Posted 2009-06-20 11:05 PM (#411039 - in reply to #411036)
Subject: Re: Requesting Input of the Hive Mind


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Straps??
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Beal
Posted 2009-06-21 8:14 AM (#411040 - in reply to #411036)
Subject: Re: Requesting Input of the Hive Mind



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Go to www.murgaboots.com and look at the croc strap. That's my go to strap these days. Some of you saw it on Amelia.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2009-06-21 8:40 AM (#411041 - in reply to #411036)
Subject: Re: Requesting Input of the Hive Mind



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Beal, I can't make out the diamonds that must be encrusted in that strap.
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G8r
Posted 2009-06-21 10:10 AM (#411042 - in reply to #411036)
Subject: Re: Requesting Input of the Hive Mind


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Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
P.S. If you're from PETA, let it be known that Billy the Stingray died of natural causes.
...and he sure was tasty!

Sorry I can't help you out on locating a stock strap, but your description makes it sound quite nice.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-06-21 12:24 PM (#411043 - in reply to #411036)
Subject: Re: Requesting Input of the Hive Mind


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Hey Beal... who'ya think made the Stingray ? LOL

But this time round, I'm just looking for a couple of plain leather ones. He used the Carvin as a guide when he made the Stingray strap, so that may be my best bet.
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MWoody
Posted 2009-06-21 8:40 PM (#411044 - in reply to #411036)
Subject: Re: Requesting Input of the Hive Mind



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Well I know its not like me, but since you asked for opinions...

Rule #1 is they must accomodate Straplocs

Rule #2 is that I don't want any buckles or hardware to bang, clatter or scratch.

My best source has been Dave Capps on Ebay for custom cut, hand made single layer leather straps. If you have bought or traded from me then most likely you have ended up with one of these. Here are what I have left:

http://api.ning.com/files/zWKbNOUsMZp0fdIRVcDTRsiGpnbJt3YX-HWfZFBC4...

The 4" Wide is for a Bass or 12 String.


For the Solidbody units I prefer a simple 1" wide strap with three each 3/8" holes for the Straploc. Use a washer in lieu of the stock washer that comes with due to limited space.



I'm about to request another order but they generally go about $20.00 each including S&H.

The next order will be
Length 54"
Width of 2" Chestnut tone with Scrolling/Tooling
12" Taper to Bridge end with dual tassles and Straploc.
Neck end to have 12" taper down to 1" with 3 each Straploc holes.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-06-21 9:26 PM (#411045 - in reply to #411036)
Subject: Re: Requesting Input of the Hive Mind


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Those are nice straps. Pretty much the polar opposite of what I'm looking for, but nice straps indeed. At a really good price too.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-06-21 9:54 PM (#411046 - in reply to #411036)
Subject: Re: Requesting Input of the Hive Mind
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Woody,

What's Dave Capps sellers ID?

Thanx
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MWoody
Posted 2009-06-21 10:20 PM (#411047 - in reply to #411036)
Subject: Re: Requesting Input of the Hive Mind



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Miles,
Try Gayle Winde's site:
Gaylewindedesign on MS

Very nice friends of mine, great work but I'm a frugal freeloader at heart!

Iffy (and other Bottom Feeders),

dave.capps
Dave Capps ME page
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-06-21 11:13 PM (#411048 - in reply to #411036)
Subject: Re: Requesting Input of the Hive Mind


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Thanks Woody,
Great straps, but again, she doesn't seem to do any multi-piece straps. If I have to custom order something that someone hasn't done before, that's adding huge dollars on an already expensive endeavor.
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MWoody
Posted 2009-06-21 11:19 PM (#411049 - in reply to #411036)
Subject: Re: Requesting Input of the Hive Mind



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Sounds like you need to get a hold of a Sailmaker's Sewing Maching and start yet another hobby? :rolleyes:

How expensive could that get?
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2009-06-22 12:00 AM (#411050 - in reply to #411036)
Subject: Re: Requesting Input of the Hive Mind


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I've made guitar straps out of baler twine and whatever I could find to use as a shoulder pad..lol
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-06-22 12:03 AM (#411051 - in reply to #411036)
Subject: Re: Requesting Input of the Hive Mind


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http://www.moodyleather.com

Best straps made. Expensive? Yes, but worth every penny. I own four......
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-06-22 12:17 AM (#411052 - in reply to #411036)
Subject: Re: Requesting Input of the Hive Mind


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Again, a wonderful strap maker... nothing that is remotely what I'm looking for... but it might help others.
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