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Location: Nahant, MA | Just curious...since I don't actually own one.
Do you need to have a case humidifier (Oasis, etc.) for an Adamas? Just the neck is actually wood (well except for the core in laminate tops, I suppose), right? |
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Location: Colorado | The great thing about the Adamas line is that it is much less apt to have any issues a wood-topped Ovation would (or any other wood box really). This guitar will take humidity changes very well.
I have had the 1881 for over 7 years now. This guitar came from the original NJ owner (where it lived its first 7 years) to very dry Colorado. I condition the fret board at string changes and use a white wood wax on the back of the neck (w/ some 0000 steel wool) twice a year. I have had no issues with this guitar without using a humidifier. |
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Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | Carol,
I think Adamas guitars are less susceptible to humidity problems, but I don't think they're impervious to them. I live in a dry part of Texas and I always store my Adamas guitars in the case with a humidifier. I lay an Oasis along side the neck near the upper bout. Even though the necks are finished I've seen evidence that they can still dry out. I left my 1680 on a stand for a couple of months and I started to notice slight bulges in the binding over the frets, which is a sign of a dry neck. The tops may be sealed from both sides, but what about the bracing. Maybe it's all in my head, but I swear my 47RI gets harsh when it's dry. I'm glad you posted this, I'm anxious to hear what others say.
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Location: south east Michigan | I was going to mention the braces but ol' Nick (trained professional that he is), beat me to it.
A little off topic, but not much...
My friends D-28 Martin sounds like an old, wet catchers mit in the summer but clear and crispy in the winter. |
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Location: Utah | We keep all of our instruments in a humidified room, including the Adamas. I've noticed the neck of one daughter's Ovation, which she keeps in her dry apartment, has the ends of the frets poking out a bit. The neck does dry out and shrink. If she keeps it at the house in the humidified music room for a week the frets no longer have sharp ends sticking out.
So I would say, yes, it is worth humidifying the Adamas neck if your humidity is below 20%. Depending on the fretboard it may or may not be resin impregnated, which would affect shrinkage. In any case, I would humidify if very dry, but not worry about keeping the humidity as constant as for an all wood guitar. |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | I keep all in a humidified room at 65 degrees and between 35-45% humidity from late October thru April when the central heat is running most of the time.
Never had any issues... |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I prefer a bit more humidity than Tim, somewhere in the 50-55% range. The lack of humidity in Colorado during the winter is notorious. Then later in the spring, almost on a given day, I'll remove the humidifier and crank up the dehumidifier. |
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Location: Nashville TN. | did not some bring elite sound hole hum/dehum to the
2006 factory tour. |
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Location: Texas | Have any of you found a brand/model room humidifier that you are particularly happy with for you man-cave? |
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Location: SoCal | Bionaire(BCM630) humidifier (from Costco).
Bionaire makes a few tower models and rates them at 500 square feet.
They have a small footprint, hold a lot of water, are easy to refill, clean, etc. and are digital.
Same thing is found under the Holmes brand.
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Location: Texas | thanks noah! |
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Location: Utah | We have two Sears Kenmore 12 gallon units. One is downstairs in the Parlor next to the antique furniture and wife's piano. The other is in the music room with the guitars, violin, etc. This model was very highly rated, I liked the first one so much I bought a second one.
Filters last a month or two during the dryest part of the winter, which is single digit humidity. Home Depot sells cheaper filters than Sears, or you can cut your own from swamp cooler mats. The fan is pretty quiet on low. On full blast it is loud. I keep them both set to low and don't have to turn them off except when recording
The music room stays at 45% effortlessly. The other unit keeps the front room at 40% easily but the rest of the house is a slightly dryer. The two together could keep the whole house 2500 sq ft at whatever we wanted if they were strategically placed.
Sears 12 Gallon Humidifier
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Location: NJ | I run 2 humidifiers and full them twice daily.
it is a struggle to keep the humidity up to 40 + percent but it does it.
I use hot air since it does not lower the heat temp. I ran a cool air one for a while but took it back it would lower my heat at least 3 degrees and not really raise the humidity
forgot to add the room is HUGE 24 x 28 |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I have a Bionaire also, model BCM45521. It holds about 3 gallons and does a pretty good job of keeping the basement mancave at 46%. I have to fill it every couple days during the winter. I like the looks of the one Noah posted better. Mine's low and wide. Takes up a lot of room.
The advantages are that it has a permanent filter with a gauge that tells you when it needs cleaning. I clean it in the spring or fall regardless of what the gauge says. The humidistat also seems to work pretty well.
Next house may have a whole house humidifier, but then I might not have a mancave in that house.
How do you fill a 12 gallon humidifier? I take the tank over to the shower next to the mancave. That was also a consideration when I bought it. |
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Location: Utah | Our humidifiers have a 1.5 or 2 gallon removable tank which you can barely see in the photo. It is a vertical tank to the right of the vent slots. The base of the humidifier holds one tank full of water, so it takes two trips to the kitchen faucet to fill the humidifier. The 12 gallon description means it can theoretically put 12 gallons of water into the air every day. That would be on high fan in a very dry climate. On the coldest days I have to refill each humidifier completely every day. More normal winter is one tankful each, every day. In the summer with the air conditioner running it is a tankful every week each. |
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Location: Texas | We have brutally high humidity most of the year, but for several months in the winter, when the heat is running, the air inside the house is so dry that I'm forced to keep all my guitars in their cases when I'm not playing them… I'd prefer to keep them out, so I'd like to find a good room humidifier.
If I am interpreting the specs properly, the Bionaire that Noah posted sounds like it will measure the humidity in the room and will automatically turn on and off to maintain whatever humidity level you specify? If so, that sounds ideal for my little man-cave, much better than any I've had in the past, which just keep running until the walls are dripping and/or they run out of water… |
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Location: SoCal | The two Bionaire units we bought at Costco are probably going on 3 years now. They are a very simple design. The only moving part is the fan in the top. You can run them continuously or set the humidity level (up to 65%) and the auto-mode takes care of the rest. The only maintenance is washing out the wicking-pad/air-filter every now and then. The tank and pads have a bio-guard feature and there has never been a mold problem inside the unit (even when I forgot to empty one of them in the off-season). They've been superseded by a newer model which some of the Costcos might still have on their shelves (our Costco already has spring/summer stuff out). |
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Adamas and case humidifier?
