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GaryB
Posted 2008-10-10 8:12 PM (#16963)
Subject: Sighting Down the Fretboard


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Recently got my GC Artist back from the mothership. Beautiful job. Sighting down the neck I see that the fretboard dips past the 12th fret into the body. I've seen it on other round hole guitars, as I recall, and not on epaulet guitars. Is there a structural reason for it? Is this normal?
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-10-10 8:37 PM (#16964 - in reply to #16963)
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Not noticed with my O´ s.........have seen it on several Arch-Top`s tho..

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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-10-10 9:32 PM (#16965 - in reply to #16963)
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You might be seeing the relief in the neck meeting the fretboard extension
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GaryB
Posted 2008-10-10 9:36 PM (#16966 - in reply to #16963)
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Jeff, that would seem to describe what I'm looking at.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-10-10 10:09 PM (#16967 - in reply to #16963)
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If all else is well... most likely
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-10-11 1:08 AM (#16968 - in reply to #16963)
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Brooklyn : Recently got my GC Artist back from the mothership. Beautiful job. Sighting down the neck I see that the fretboard dips past the 12th fret into the body. I've seen it on other round hole guitars, as I recall, and not on epaulet guitars. Is there a structural reason for it? Is this normal?
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Jeff W. : You might be seeing the relief in the neck meeting the fretboard extension
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What kind of explanation is that ??

Vic
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-10-11 9:32 AM (#16969 - in reply to #16963)
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English.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-10-11 9:42 AM (#16970 - in reply to #16963)
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schroeder
Posted 2008-10-11 11:51 AM (#16971 - in reply to #16963)
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muzza
Posted 2008-10-11 3:10 PM (#16972 - in reply to #16963)
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Originally posted by HumblePie aka Solid Top:What kind of explanation is that ??
Well, from the original poster's response, I would say it is the correct explanation.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-10-11 3:33 PM (#16973 - in reply to #16963)
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A phenomena ocurring on guitars with one large sound opening , but not on guitars with several small ones..??..

I was under the impression that a hump was meant , known to be notorious on several archtops , if it`s not that , then what is that dipping into the body , a maladjusted neck ?

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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-10-12 2:29 AM (#16974 - in reply to #16963)
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I thought so..
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Oddball
Posted 2008-10-12 2:20 PM (#16975 - in reply to #16963)
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I sent an older Legend 1567 with neck problems to Mom a year or so ago. Was told it needed a neck reset, which I okayed. When I received it back, as with everyone else who has done business with the factory, I was very pleased. Not only was the neck and action incredible, the home-boys had polished out all but the worst bumps and bruises and had fixed a non-op pre-amp. However, sighting down the fretboard, you can see that is also dips severely into the body about where the neck meets the body. I queried Mother about this and was told that was typical on a guitar with neck probs, and to fix that (in addition to the neck reset, which basically realigns the neck with the bowl) would require a lot more work, perhaps even removing/replacing the top. Frankly, this guitar would not be worth that type of investment.

I can't say I'm unhappy. I certainly would like to have known going in that I WASN'T going to get a nice straight head-to-toe fretboard back. But what I do have is a nice old player with excellent action and a sweet tone. I really don't play much past the 12th fret anyway, but if I want, I can still get up there and do it. I suppose it will hurt the resale value if I decide to part with it one day, but again, this is an old beater Chevy of a guitar and — to me — well worth what I've put into it.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-10-12 9:26 PM (#16976 - in reply to #16963)
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Thanks Oddball ,
That is what I call a real good explanation , and one to remember :)

Vic
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GaryB
Posted 2008-10-13 7:17 AM (#16977 - in reply to #16963)
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Oddball, appreciate the lengthy response.

Here's a quote from John Bundy at mothership who worked on my guitar; just received 5 minutes ago.

"A drop off from the body fret to the sound hole is typical for these models."

Gotta go with the man who saw it and worked on it.

Thanks to all for the responses.

Gary
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-10-13 7:46 AM (#16978 - in reply to #16963)
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sycamore
Posted 2008-10-13 7:53 AM (#16979 - in reply to #16963)
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p. 22 of this 1970's manual:http://www.ovationtribute.com/Catalogues/Acoustic%20Owner's%20Manual%20II/Acoustic%20Owner's%20Manual%20II.html

specifically startes says that the "...neck angle drops off at a slight angle (0 degrees 15min) relative to the top. In sighting down the neck, it may appear that the fingerboard has a high point where it meets the body".

No guitar, Ovation or not, needs to have a "straight head-to-toe fretboard".
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