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alpep
Posted 2003-06-11 8:07 PM (#208080)
Subject: hard drive recovery


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Location: NJ
Hi
I had a major data crash. Please no lectures about backups please!!!!
I need to have the data on my WD 800 recovered. If anyone knows of a place that is reliable and inexpensive please let me know
my drive is still under warranty
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BCastle
Posted 2003-06-11 8:11 PM (#208081 - in reply to #208080)
Subject: Re: hard drive recovery


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Posts: 63

Location: Dallas, GA, USA
Don't know, Al. I had the same thing happen and learned two things:
1. Recovery isn't the manufacturers problem even though their product died prematurely
and
2. If there's any place that can do it for under a fortune, I don't know where it is.
What I kept hearing was that it is "so expensive that you'd better have some real damn valuable data to make it worth the money".

Good luck!
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Posted 2003-06-11 9:32 PM (#208082 - in reply to #208080)
Subject: Re: hard drive recovery

Posted 2003-06-11 10:10 PM (#208083 - in reply to #208080)
Subject: Re: hard drive recovery
Bailey
Posted 2003-06-12 12:57 AM (#208084 - in reply to #208080)
Subject: Re: hard drive recovery


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Location: Las Cruces, NM
Al

I don't know what you are running, but my son just had a crash caused by trying to install a cakewalk that wasn't XP compatible on his XP hard drive and some checking found that his XP CD was a bootable disc. To correct the problem he had to go in and make his CD drive the primary bootable drive and from there He was able to access the hard drive and correct the problem. The assignment is done through the access to the bios involved with setting up a new hard disc, I think. If this might help I'll try to get more information.

Bailey
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biglouis
Posted 2003-06-12 5:40 AM (#208085 - in reply to #208080)
Subject: Re: hard drive recovery


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Posts: 69

Location: UK
Alex

I was going to suggest something similar. If you can create a bootable floppy diskette - or get someone to do it for you, you may find you can access the drive at the command prompt and at least recover your files.

Louis
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playadamas
Posted 2003-06-12 11:04 AM (#208086 - in reply to #208080)
Subject: Re: hard drive recovery


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Posts: 398

Location: So. Cal.
Al, if your drive is still spinning, send it to me and I'll see what I can do.

Just me and my Adamas.
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alpep
Posted 2003-06-12 4:39 PM (#208087 - in reply to #208080)
Subject: Re: hard drive recovery


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Location: NJ
Michael
Thanks.Both Stonge and Miles have also offered to take a look at it.
the drive spins, it is recognized in the bios, it is NOT recognized in the computer startup and it will not boot from the drive.
It has win 2K pro on it and when I got the BSOD I tried to reinstall windows and it would not install it in either partition. (I only thought I partitioned the drive for 1 area) several attempts made one partition "disappear" and the drive became unbootable.
Anyway, hopefully between the 3 of you I can get my info off of this drive, if not I may consider professional recovery although it is not in my current budget.
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cliff
Posted 2003-06-12 5:05 PM (#208088 - in reply to #208080)
Subject: Re: hard drive recovery


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Location: NJ
. . . AND . . what have we LEARNED from all of this, Alexander??
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alpep
Posted 2003-06-12 6:40 PM (#208089 - in reply to #208080)
Subject: Re: hard drive recovery


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Location: NJ
That friends are a very valuable thing to have??
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2003-06-12 7:32 PM (#208090 - in reply to #208080)
Subject: Re: hard drive recovery


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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest
MAKE WEEKLY BACKUPS!!!!!
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cliff
Posted 2003-06-12 7:58 PM (#208091 - in reply to #208080)
Subject: Re: hard drive recovery


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". . . That friends are a very valuable thing to have?? . . ."

What is there a friggin' "Leave It To Beaver" Marathon on TV-Land or something?!? :D
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jbx2
Posted 2003-06-12 9:03 PM (#208092 - in reply to #208080)
Subject: Re: hard drive recovery


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Posts: 35

Location: Reading, PA
I would go with making it a slave drive in a working machine and pull the data off on to the master. My kids let me rebuild our harddive every six months or so. I've learned to keep all the important stuff on CDs and anything worth using on the machine is in a different partition than the OS. Good luck.

Jim
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alpep
Posted 2003-06-12 9:46 PM (#208093 - in reply to #208080)
Subject: Re: hard drive recovery


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Location: NJ
Miles
next time I come over I will look for YOUR weekly backups.

As soon as I get this drive sorted out and a new one in the machine I will set up norton's ghost to automatically back up my hard drive. This is the first crash that I have not been able to recover myself.

Back in college I was doing a project on the old IBM 360/370 and we had literally thousands of punch cards. They contained data of all the research and had to be in order to run them. Well they were stored in the keypunch room (yes I am dating myself here) and one of my classmates leaned on the shelf that had the boxes of cards and it collapsed. thousands of computer cards in a big pile on the floor all mixed up. the professor walked into the room looked at the mess said to the guy "pick them up and then come up to my office" the kid spent all summer for free organizing the cards and running the programs. What a mess that was. Well the rest of us got "A"s for our portion of the project.
You would think that someone that has been around computers as long as I would know better.....
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2003-06-12 11:09 PM (#208094 - in reply to #208080)
Subject: Re: hard drive recovery


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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest
LOL... (on the punch card thing)..

I joke about not doing it.... but I guess I do mroe than many people do. I backup every studio session pretty much. Your misshap has reminded me to backup the AOL folder too as I tend to neglect that. The websites are of course done by someone else, but I tend to do those myself also every week or so too.

Frankly, it's just sad that after all these years, someone can't come out with an operating system and drives that don't fail as much as they do.

I have even seen redundant systems fail. Of course, my favorite and not-so-favorite mishap... At my last job we had some early code for the project backed up at the Pentagon. The primary copy of the source code had been corrupt, but no one knew as it had been compiled and running fine for over a year. It wasn't until a plane landed on the server that we found out the code in our office wouldn't compile and had to be re-written. (the backup was on the server the plane hit). I don't ever recall the plan of "keep a backup copy offsite" include the line "where a plane can't land on it." Sometimes... you loose despite your best efforts.
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Bailey
Posted 2003-06-13 1:32 AM (#208095 - in reply to #208080)
Subject: Re: hard drive recovery


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Location: Las Cruces, NM
Disaster avoidance and recovery is a whole nother subject, one copy of every thing worth while should be somewhere else. Do many of us follow this golden rule? Probably not.
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Bailey
Posted 2003-06-15 2:12 AM (#208096 - in reply to #208080)
Subject: Re: hard drive recovery


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Location: Las Cruces, NM
Al & Miles

I worked with a punch card Univac 1108, went to a DEC 4K ring and washer system and then an 8K 1/2 in. tape system, interspersed with a hookup to a major access system through our (General Atomics) teletypes, and every one of those systems was plagued with crashes that took out weeks of work and destroyed many a theoretician that thought he/she had discovered the anwsers to the most advanced problems of physics. All they discovered was the vulnerability of humans to the belief that computers might, might solve a problem.
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