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Location: Delaware | Been using a Schubb capo for years on my '79 Balladeer, sounds fine. I tune my guitars down 1/2 step. Seems when I use it on my new '07 Legend it makes the intonation sound different. Any thoughts on this? Could the "hand rubbed urethane neck" contribute to this? Is it my ears? Am I crazy (well or course, I'm here ain't I)? What type/brand of capo do you guys use? |
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Location: Detroit Mi | I own several styles of Capo but always gravitate back to my Shubb: I have one of early brass colored ones and a nickel plated 6 and 12 string variety. I want to get the new ones, with the neat little roller, just to round out the set.
I think they make a well-crafted, simple to operate, and non-obtrusive capo and I've not found a better one for any application.
I might recount also that many years ago, I lost the little black plastic glide and wrote then asking if I could buy one. They responded by sending me two of them for free! THAT's customer-centric and it is a hallmark of a great company. (Sound familiar?) |
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| Schubb. I don't bother with tuning down as O's are built to take the string tension, especially the 12-strings, better than any other guitar.
Now Capo Guy, on the other hand, can wax eloquent on just about every capo ever made :D . |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Shubb man here too. Two ways to tell if it's you or not perceiving an intonation problem. Have someone else play the guitar, get his opinion, and / or use an electronic chromatic tuner. Your local luthier should have really sharp tuner and he'd probably do it for free if he's a buddy. |
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Location: NJ | Get a LongNeck.
(btw: Kyser/G7 for the 6, Shubb for the 12, here) |
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Location: ms | I tune down on some songs because I have no vocal range and it gives me some room. I like the shubb but I just don`t use a capo much. |
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Location: SE Michigan | I have several of the Kyser capo's. I like them for the convenience. You can clamp them to the headstock to the mic stand.
I am sure that the Schubb capos are more precise, but the Kysers are close enough for me to get the job done. I also take Kyser's when new and clamp them to something about as thick as a guitar neck (like a table top) and leave them for a couple weeks to soften the spring tension just a bit.
I also like to put the capo nearly on the fret, not quite on it but only a tiny bit behind it. I think this helps keep the capo from bottoming out the strings on the fret board |
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Location: Delaware | Thanks for the replies! Hopefully Capo Guy will hit this post with some info also. Yea I like the Shubb. It's simple, easy, and works well. The reason I tune down is not for the guitars benefit, it's for mine, gives me a better chance at vocals that would be outta reach! I will get someone to play this O with and without the capo, so I can stand back and marvel at her awesome sound and see if I can hear any tonal quality changes. |
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | I use the Kysers when playing out becaue the are easier to set in a hurry and as Brian said, they store well. I seem to use the Shubb when I'm at home and don't have to worry about changing quickly for the next song. I also have one of the G7th, $35 models but it's a pita to get on and off so I only use if as a spare. I even have one of the old double elastic band styles that I use on my Martin 12 string since it pretty much stays there all the time. I have notice an intonation issue from time to time when I have one in place but it usually means its time to change strings. |
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Location: enid, ok | I don't get it. Why would someone tune down, then slap on a capo? Explain, please? |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Less tension on the top. Some feel it's better on the guitar to have less pressure on the bridge area. I know Mike tunes all his to D and capo's on the second fret. I tune all mine to concert, E. |
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Location: Delaware | Maxdaddy7271- I tune down 1/2 step from A440 because it allows my vocal range to sing certain songs I would not be able to pull off otherwise. I'll slap the capo on the 1st or 2nd fret for other songs that I can hit in that range. I basicaly strum melodys (first position) and sing. Usually solo, it's rare I get to jam with other players. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by Brian T:
I have several of the Kyser capo's. I like them for the convenience. You can clamp them to the headstock... My first Ovation was missing part of the "Ovation" decal because of that, so you may wanna be careful...
If you care about such cosmetic/wimpy stuff.
Just thought I'd share that. |
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Location: East Tennessee | Capos. :D Did someone say CAPOS
fridave do you mean intonation or the the guitar is out of tune?
I have found that if applied incorrectly a capo will pull a guitar out of tune. The most common reason it the capo is too tight or not in the correct position behind the fret.
Another thing I've noticed is with a lot of capos, Kyser, Shubb, Planet Waves NS, Dunlop is that the are a C shape and the neck profile may cause some tuning issues. Also some guitars have different fretboard radius which will cause problems. I think all Ovations have the same radius. I think you can get a Shubb for different fretboard radius.
As the guys have said I tune down to "D" and capo up to standard. Mostly out of old habit but the group I play in at church uses a lot of material in Bb, Eb or F. a real pain for a player of my limited ability. So I will transpose to a more guitar friendly key and adjust the capo accordingly.
As for capos I have a bunch,(I bought a G7 this week). I think for most people the Shubb is the best all around. The G7 is built like a Tank and does well. I also like a Paige, (U style which will not pull the guitar out of tune as easily), but not for a 12 string. The Planet Waves is nice light weight but I don't think it will last as long as the others. I still need to get a G Band.
I hope I have helped. |
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Location: NJ | fridave;
Czech your PM's . . . |
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Location: Cork, Ireland | I had bad intonation on the 6th string of the Applesauce - went unacceptably sharp even on fret 3. The (Shubb) capo made it progressively worse i.e. that string went even more out of tune relative to the other strings. A VERY small shaving off the saddle solved the problem. Now the capo puts all the strings SLIGHTLY sharp but in tune relative to each other - but probably only detectable by a chromatic tuner. |
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tune down 1/2, capo up
