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povation
Posted 2006-02-19 11:22 PM (#265729)
Subject: New OVATION ROUNDBACK


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What do you think about Ovation round back? If
1.In side,the original ovation fiber glass.
2.Out side,wooden round back.
I wish I were the first one who buy it now! povation
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MWoody
Posted 2006-02-20 12:27 AM (#265730 - in reply to #265729)
Subject: Re: New OVATION ROUNDBACK



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I don't think the two materials will expand/contract together well.

For looks there are some imitation wooden roundbacks but the Fiberglass/Lyrachord and GS materials were designed to reflect the sound compatably.
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texbaz
Posted 2006-02-20 10:57 AM (#265731 - in reply to #265729)
Subject: Re: New OVATION ROUNDBACK


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Actually, with today's technology it probably would be possible to line a wooden guitar with acoustic performance enhancing material. It could be better but by how much is probably negligible

The way I see the Ovation concept is that the upper and lower bouts were important in how the engineers wanted the tone of the guitar to sound. To get that tone, they had to have the shape we see today in our round backs which was only really achievable (cost) using man made material. the material Lyrachord is really icing on the cake. I believe some of the first Pre production units were fiberglass?


The back plate is much less important acoustically for most frequencies, partly because it is held against the player's body. The sides of the guitar do not vibrate much in the direction perpendicular to their surface, and so do not radiate much sound.

Source:
How Geeters work

coffee low light is on!!
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Steve
Posted 2006-02-20 11:26 AM (#265732 - in reply to #265729)
Subject: Re: New OVATION ROUNDBACK


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Great topic for discussion. If the back of the Ovation bowl doesn't vibrate as well because it's held against the body then it's primary function is to reflect sound it receives, directly or indirectly, from the top. To be more reflective, the lyrachord would require some kind dressing to enhance that ability. A wooden guitar with a quality lining material might tend to be overly heavy as it directly relates to the amount of sound reflected, so lyrachord is the better choice. If there is a specific material suited to increase the direct/indirect reflective property of the lyrachord, without adding excessive weight to the guitar, then that would be the ideal. It would seem reasonable that Ovation Instruments has researched this and has chosen the best top woods and the ideal bracing for any specific bowl designed with lyrachord. If there is a topical substance to enhance the flective properties of lyrachord, it might require a change in the bracings, so that would be a custom-made instrument at best, probably much more expensive.
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-02-20 11:34 AM (#265733 - in reply to #265729)
Subject: Re: New OVATION ROUNDBACK



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If I hold my guitar just right I can feel the bowl vibrate on my ribs. I would say the the Ovation bowl contributes as much to the total sound as any flat back would.
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willard
Posted 2006-02-20 1:41 PM (#265734 - in reply to #265729)
Subject: Re: New OVATION ROUNDBACK


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Brad...You can actually still feel your ribs? Mine seem to be covered with a few inches of adipose tissue that don't allow the vibrations thru.
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schroeder
Posted 2006-02-20 2:13 PM (#265735 - in reply to #265729)
Subject: Re: New OVATION ROUNDBACK


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Brad means that he can feel the rack of ribs he ate for supper vibrate if he plays his guitar too soon afterwards.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-02-20 5:00 PM (#265736 - in reply to #265729)
Subject: Re: New OVATION ROUNDBACK



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:D
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Phil Wong
Posted 2006-02-20 6:58 PM (#265737 - in reply to #265729)
Subject: Re: New OVATION ROUNDBACK


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Where is Slim Slipkid's picture? :p
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Waskel
Posted 2006-02-20 11:02 PM (#265738 - in reply to #265729)
Subject: Re: New OVATION ROUNDBACK



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Slipkid
Posted 2006-02-21 7:08 AM (#265739 - in reply to #265729)
Subject: Re: New OVATION ROUNDBACK



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"""Brad means that he can feel the rack of ribs he ate for supper vibrate if he plays his guitar too soon afterwards."""

I'ts 7 a.m......I thought hey...I got a minute to check the OFC....Ah me..what a fun message board to wake up to.
The trick to feeling the bowl vibrate is to hold it side saddle. :D
Well...time for me to pick up my GYM BAG and go to work.
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Beal
Posted 2006-02-21 8:22 AM (#265740 - in reply to #265729)
Subject: Re: New OVATION ROUNDBACK



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To the original question, why?
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cliff
Posted 2006-02-21 9:04 AM (#265741 - in reply to #265729)
Subject: Re: New OVATION ROUNDBACK


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I was thinking more like:

". . . WHUH?? . . ."
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-02-21 9:09 AM (#265742 - in reply to #265729)
Subject: Re: New OVATION ROUNDBACK


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I was thinking I'd spray the inside of my Lowden with bed-liner.
Rednecks round here swear by it for their pickups...
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Phil Wong
Posted 2006-02-21 9:36 AM (#265743 - in reply to #265729)
Subject: Re: New OVATION ROUNDBACK


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I thought it was good for their HICCUPS!! :D :p
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cliff
Posted 2006-02-21 11:19 AM (#265744 - in reply to #265729)
Subject: Re: New OVATION ROUNDBACK


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Why not just Witko-ize it w/white Krylon? . . .
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