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stonebobbo
Posted 2002-11-01 4:05 PM (#216642)
Subject: Peeling Grape Leaves



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A piece of the wood in the epaulet on my 2000 collectors appears to be peeling up and I'm wondering if it is safe for me to attempt to reglue. It it where the walnut meets the maple, in the very, very thin part between the largest hole and the mid-size hole on the upper bout. Any suggestions on type of glue I should use, anything to watch out for, etc. It doesn't seem significant enough to spend the time and money to send back to the factory. Also, is this a common occurance? Thanks in advance.
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Beal
Posted 2002-11-01 4:47 PM (#216643 - in reply to #216642)
Subject: Re: Peeling Grape Leaves



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A squirt of crazy glue. Make sure you don't get your fingers stuck.
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alpep
Posted 2002-11-01 5:41 PM (#216644 - in reply to #216642)
Subject: Re: Peeling Grape Leaves


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i think they use titebond at the factory. I have seen a few epaulets cut loose but not often.
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OGL1
Posted 2002-11-02 5:47 AM (#216645 - in reply to #216642)
Subject: Re: Peeling Grape Leaves


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The factory or a luthier would use Titebond
yellow (carpenter's glue) and inject it under the
leaf (so no mess, no seen glue). ;)
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ovation06057
Posted 2002-11-03 6:02 AM (#216646 - in reply to #216642)
Subject: Re: Peeling Grape Leaves


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Titebond will not hold.You should use super/crazy glue as was suggested .The factory uses loctite.
The lifted eppie is more common than we like to admit.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2002-11-03 10:22 AM (#216647 - in reply to #216642)
Subject: Re: Peeling Grape Leaves



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Hehe. Thanks for the advice. Actually have a tube of loctite in the toolbox for using on the set screw of the points for the 009 distributor on the old Veedubs. Never underestimate the usefulness of all things volkswagen ... reminds me of the time I talked the date out of her pantyhose to rectify a thrown belt ... got her home on time but still suffered the scorn of her father.
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alpep
Posted 2002-11-03 12:18 PM (#216648 - in reply to #216642)
Subject: Re: Peeling Grape Leaves


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loctite was what I was thinking when I typed titebond...sorry carry on..
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Bailey
Posted 2002-11-04 1:28 AM (#216649 - in reply to #216642)
Subject: Re: Peeling Grape Leaves


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Stonebobo

I have two daughters and I never would have believed that story, especially from someone in a VW. All I can say is you would have been glad you had a rear engine car as the shotgun blasts followed your rapid escape. The only thing that would save you would be there was no radiator to get penetrated.

Bailey
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Endpin123
Posted 2002-11-04 4:00 AM (#216650 - in reply to #216642)
Subject: Re: Peeling Grape Leaves


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I thought penetrattion was the whole point of this story! ;)
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Beal
Posted 2002-11-04 6:27 AM (#216651 - in reply to #216642)
Subject: Re: Peeling Grape Leaves



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No, It was lifting leaves to see what's under.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2002-11-04 9:14 AM (#216652 - in reply to #216642)
Subject: Re: Peeling Grape Leaves



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Which proved to be loc'dtite.
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cliff
Posted 2002-11-04 12:22 PM (#216653 - in reply to #216642)
Subject: Re: Peeling Grape Leaves


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Yeah, but a generous application of alcohol'll allow those leaves to lift MUCH easier (and often loosens up what's been loc'dtite!!).
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ceres
Posted 2002-11-04 3:33 PM (#216654 - in reply to #216642)
Subject: Re: Peeling Grape Leaves


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Ah Yes I remember those days... a little Boones Farm and some Sweet Baby James and those leaves would fall like October in CT. ;)
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George
Posted 2002-11-05 12:49 AM (#216655 - in reply to #216642)
Subject: Re: Peeling Grape Leaves


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:( I just tried to change the strings on my 1987 Collectors and when I got all the strings off the nut fell off. Since you mention locktite, is that what is recommended to glue the nut back on? Or would it be wiser to take it to an Ovation repair facility or ship to Hartford?
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Bailey
Posted 2002-11-05 1:28 AM (#216656 - in reply to #216642)
Subject: Re: Peeling Grape Leaves


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And you people accuse me of changing the subject. It might be a while, George, before they can get back to any sensible discussion of this subject. The words "pantyhose" and penetration" seem to have sparked a frenzy of sorts. These people seem to have a very short span of attention, shame shame. (a '52 Oldsmobile, her's not mine, seemed to have the needed effect without any excuses about belts in '55 in Virginia)

Bailey
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-11-05 9:11 AM (#216657 - in reply to #216642)
Subject: Re: Peeling Grape Leaves


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George:
Take it to a good repair guy in your area. It'll be faster and cheaper than sending the guitar to Ovation. Any decent repair person can put the nut on properly.
Paul
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