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Location: puerto vallarta, mexico | if you havent heard yet, i just got a news flash on my computer. seems the columbia has blown up returning to cape canaveral. my heart felt sympathy goes out to the families involved. it's going to be hard playing today. i just hope it isn't another terrorist act. |
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Location: Fort Worth, Texas | Right, appears terrorism is a remote possibility. Here in Texas they used the emergency broadcast system to warn people to leave debris alone and report it's location.
Sad day. We have a 4-7 gig here - really don't feel like playing right now, but playing music with my friends is one thing that brings me joy and can help deal with sad events like this.
Think we'll start it off with Knockin' On Heaven's Door |
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Location: puerto vallarta, mexico | good plan for an opener paul. we play 4 to 7 as well at sr whiskers then 8 till 1am at philos. knocking on heaven's door seems appropriate openers for both. |
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Location: Fort Worth, Texas | Let me know how the shows go. |
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| I’m not a religious man but those we lost today, while on a hero’s journey, should serve to remind us that we have not even to risk the adventure alone for the hero’s of all time have gone before use. The labyrinth is thoroughly known. We have only to follow the thread of the hero path. And where we had thought to find an abomination we shall find a god. And where we had thought to slay another, we shall slay ourselves. And where we hade thought to travel outward we shall come to the center of our own existence. And where we had thought to be alone, we will be with all the world.
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| I find times like these, troublesome events, tragedies, are the best times to write music. If anyones gonna be playing anything tonight, why not dedicate a nice soft sorrowful song to the brave souls who died on Columbia. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | It is funny that times of pain, anguish, whatever, tend to produce good music. Ever hear the song Vince Gill wrote for Payne Stewart, "Hey God"? The blues, putting your feelings into music so you can deal with them better I guess. Also looking at artists careers, when they are unhappy often are the times of their greatest tunes. anyhow.....
A moment of silence for Columbia and crew is in order. The next time we pick up the guitar the first thing you play can be for them too. |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | Hello everyone. My brother is an engineer for NASA. He works on the shuttles main engines. He is devistated. The space community is close nit, and he has close ties to alot of the astronauts. He is in my prayers tonight as well as those brave souls that explore the heavens...Paul Hebert |
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Location: Fort Worth, Texas | Today was one of those crystal clear, blue sky days. When the weather and the calendar sync up and one can have the time to soak in a beautiful day of sunshine. Tragedy struck admist the beauty. We played this afternoon and began our set with Knockin' On Heaven's Door and ended the evening with Buffalo Springfield's On The Way Home
Shine out your light to all who are feeling pain and loss tonight, families, friends, co-workers, nations. Music is one way to share that light.
Shine on you crazy diamonds... |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | IMHO, these are the pioneers that will be remembered in the far future as the ones who were willing to take the risks of going higher, faster, farther, and seeing things that us earth bounds will never see. They were and are the best of the best, and were of the world as well as of the nation. I'm far from a one worlder, but the space program is the most worldly thing today and someday may erase the differences that plague today's nations.
Heroes for the ages, maybe someday there will be a Rushmore on some far planet with their faces on it.
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| This day reminds me of the Saint Crispin's Day Speech from Henry V by William Shakespeare.
This day is called the feast of Crispian:
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian:'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispin's day.'
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember with advantages
What feats he did that day: then shall our names.
Familiar in his mouth as household words
Harry the king, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remember'd.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember'd;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I guess I'm just in a mood so forgive me if this offends anyone. My condolences to the shuttle victims families, but I don't get the fuss. I believe about 7000 people die every day on this planet (one every 12 seconds or so). Many heroes, many just plain folk, and everything in between. It's sad when anyone dies, but making a media circus of the ones we happen to "see" is just morbid, and frankly unfair to all the "heroes" who die unnoticed. I'm sure in the 1000's that die everyday there is at least one doctor, someone who probably saved 100's of lives in his or her lifetime or maybe did research that will eventually save millions of lives. A doctor spends as much time if not more becoming a doctor as one takes to become an astronaut. I don't mean to downplay an astronaut, they are brave (if not a little nuts) people. I just think there are more important things to focus an entire day of broadcasting on, and certainly more people who have impacted humanity in a bigger sence. I also think a little more compassion could have been shown to the guys in the space station who watched their ride home blow up too. Lets face it, the ONLY reason there was so much coverage of the shuttle today was that a lot of tax dollars pay for the space program. I would have been proud of the ONE radio or TV station that made the following statement at appropriate news intervals...
"Ladies and gentlemen, it is with great regret we report the loss of 7 astronauts today who died when, for unknown reasons, the space shuttle exploded on re-entry. Let us remember these fine people, and ALL of the fine soles who have risked their lives in their attempts to expand our knowledge and enhance humanity. Let us also say a prayer for those who will continue in their place."
That is a dignified, and respectful statement. What I saw on the news today for hours on end just disgusted me with how cruel and inhumane we can be in an attempt to supposedly honor people who are named "heroes."
The media of the world should be ashamed of themselves. |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | I tend to grow somewhat weary of a media that seems to lie in wait of the next "great tragedy." That is not to say that we should not mourn those lost in the space shuttle tragedy, but as Miles suggests, keep it in perspective. I was reminded on the day my father passed on from cancer that life waits for no one. Whether or not I regarded him as hero isn't an issue- I do find however, that the older I get, the more right he was! My cynical side wants to make wagers as to how long it'll be before we see caps emblazened with "S.S. Columbia" or "sp107" or whatever to commemorate this awful turn of events.
I will pray for the family members of this tragedy, just as I did for my very own family... |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Rich & Miles
TV; thy name is not dignity or news. I am offended by the tendency of TV news readers to try to use each American tragedy to make themselves pundits. Most of those idiots are reading news because they failed everything but cosmotology. To see them asking PhD's in engineering Questions like "Didn't you see this happening from our coverage of the whistle blower caught napping who was fired and wrote the book "NASA Doesn't Love Me Any More" it appears that she laid out this very scenario if she was fired, and it happened?(smirk, smirk)"
I think a close relative of a victim of this sort of tragedy should, by law, be allowed to treat some news readers to a dose of a stun gun when needed, that would improve the coverage of these events greatly.
As you've said, heroes die every day, these were visible, and thay all deserve some thanks from the rest of us for streching the borders a little or a lot.
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I guess we are far enough off the usual guitar thread, to keep this going soooooo I have another pet peave. Actually more of a curiosity. Kids (and adults) are abducted and others killed EVERY SINGLE DAY. Why do some get national, ongoing, news coverage, while others get nothing. There was a bit of hoopla in the DC area when Ms. Levi went missing as there were a few kids napped (is that a verb?) during the same time period in the DC area, and all they got was a little paragraph in the paper, and one got a mention on the radio news once or twice. This was before the political connection, so that wasn't it. I try to catch "World News" broadcasts when possible. They have so much to cover that more "real" news actually floats to the surface. WHile I'm typing this, I hear the TV in the other room as they interview ex-shuttle astronauts about how they feel. I bet Saddam and Osama are feeling relieved we are focusing on something else for a few days. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Who said life was fair, or even logical, pick up one of those greaT GUITARS AND PLAY AN ODE TO THE MOST AND THE LEAST. sORRY i HIT THE CAPSLOCK. |
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