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Ray
Posted 2006-12-02 2:30 PM (#228978)
Subject: Low end model help please


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Hi folks,

New guy here (Ray) Looking for what the difference is between Ovation Celebrity models GC057 & CC24, I've spent some time on the Ovation Home page and can't find a direct comparison ... is it bowl depth?

-thanks in advance for any info
-Ray
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-12-02 2:45 PM (#228979 - in reply to #228978)
Subject: Re: Low end model help please



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Welcome Ray.
Sorry... I don't know the difference between the two model numbers you mention. Someone else here probably will.
The suggestion we offer most often to folks in your position is to look into the EliteT series. They are the least expensive, USA built models and in the opinion of many here, offer the most bang for the buck. Most important is that the EliteT offers a solid top rather than the multi-layered top on the Korean built Celebrity.

And Ray... In May there is an annual factory tour. Some of us travel many miles and many hours to be there. I bet it might be just a short drive for you.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2006-12-02 3:03 PM (#228980 - in reply to #228978)
Subject: Re: Low end model help please



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I am the proud owner one of them and I like it, (see below) and as far as I can tell there is really NO difference.
The "GC" means that it was made for Guitar Center, (or at least that is my understanding).
As always, correct my if I'm wrong, which happens often.
(Hey! I resemble that "Low-End" remark!)

Oh, and if you are shopping for a GC057 online; everyone sez that it is a mid-bowl, It is NOT. It is a super-shallow bowl. FYI
addendum- My GC057 was made in China
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Ray
Posted 2006-12-02 6:12 PM (#228981 - in reply to #228978)
Subject: Re: Low end model help please


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The GC for Guitar Center could certainly by the case. Interestingly enough I've been looking online at a CC24 at Guitar Center and the GC057 is at Musicians Friend. ... though I've heard they're owned by the same parent company (?).

I've found one offical PDF ovation document from Musicians Friend that lists the GC057 as the super-shallow bowl.... is the CC24 also super shallow or is it mid-sized?

Is it purely personal preference on the bowl depth?

YES, I'm very interested in taking a factory tour, I've been in CT for 25 years now, ... New Hartford (?) for the Ovation factory? Just a about an hour from me. ... How is the date listed?
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-12-02 6:19 PM (#228982 - in reply to #228978)
Subject: Re: Low end model help please



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The exact date will be announced about mid to late January. But you can figure on about sometime mid-may for now.

I don't know how your are going to use it, but the shallow bowl is not well known for it's unplugged sound. Especially one with a non-solid top.
Play as many different models as you can AND have someone play them for you. You can get a better idea of the performace when you are in front of an Ovation.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-12-03 12:19 AM (#228983 - in reply to #228978)
Subject: Re: Low end model help please


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I thought the 24 was deep and the 57 was super shallow.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2006-12-03 12:47 AM (#228984 - in reply to #228978)
Subject: Re: Low end model help please



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Yeah Ray, the GC057 would not fill an auditorium with sound. I use it in a studio apt. so it is OK. If I wanted to be a street musician, I would have to bring my AC/DC amp outside.

Gee Mark, I wish I had known that when I got mine! Really! I ordered it cuz it was listed as Mid-Depth... By just about everybody too, not just the folks I bought it from. But once I got it, I saw it was SSB. I liked it. And it was an OK deal. By the time I sent it back, I woulda paid $70 in shipping, so I just kept it. And I do Like it.
Like I've said; My next O will be deeper. USO too!
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Ray
Posted 2006-12-03 7:00 PM (#228985 - in reply to #228978)
Subject: Re: Low end model help please


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FYI - went to local GC today, checked out the 57, shallow body was a bit on the thin side for sound, they didn't have any 24's in store but they sold me a CC44 (mutiple small sound holes) (reg $399) for the price of the 57 / 24 ($299) and hardshell case for $99 so I think I did ok.

Looking forward to exploring this site and doing lots of reading.
Happy Holiday to all
-Ray
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-12-03 7:49 PM (#228986 - in reply to #228978)
Subject: Re: Low end model help please


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My thought was wrong. I saw 2 CC24s on ebay that said they were mid bowl. I notice a significant difference between mid and deep bowls. For the small change in size, I'd go with the deep every time. The change in size between a mid and a supershallow is much more significant.
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ignimbyte
Posted 2006-12-03 9:21 PM (#228987 - in reply to #228978)
Subject: Re: Low end model help please


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Enjoy your new guitar Ray, and congratulations! :) As a supporter of shallow bowl Ovations, I will admit that they sound rather soft, thin and bright when played as is. They need to be plugged in to truly appreciate their sound.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2006-12-04 2:36 AM (#228988 - in reply to #228978)
Subject: Re: Low end model help please



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Yo Ray. I would definitely trade an 057 for a 44. You got a good deal. Is it Purdy?
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Ray
Posted 2006-12-07 6:33 PM (#228989 - in reply to #228978)
Subject: Re: Low end model help please


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Yea, .... looks nice, - black with some nice trim around outside edge and nice wood "leaves" around sound holes. Its for my son, he'll love it alot and take nice care of it.

Later on down the road I'd like to get the similar model with solid spruce top, etc. (Elite?) for MYSELF!! - untill then I'll just borrow my sons!

-ray
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Beal
Posted 2006-12-07 7:01 PM (#228990 - in reply to #228978)
Subject: Re: Low end model help please



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flip a coin
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-12-07 7:26 PM (#228991 - in reply to #228978)
Subject: Re: Low end model help please


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You should notice a big difference between the sound of an Elite and a Celebrity Deluxe. If you're looking at pictures, the easiest way to spot the difference is the shape of the end of the fretboard. The Elite is more tapered.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2006-12-07 7:44 PM (#228992 - in reply to #228978)
Subject: Re: Low end model help please


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Welcome Ray ,my Youngest son has a Celebrity CCO47 (Korean) has a full rich sound with good clarity,strung with CFM msp 3100 gauge 12 - 54 ,amp. is pretty good too..I have an Elite 1537 and a 1618 Glen C. , and allthough there`s a difference in sound,I could not say wich one sounds better...exept for that new guitar that I Must Have Because it Sounds Better ( Tried that Line with SWMBO eh Mark :rolleyes: ) ;)
:cool:
Vic
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