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Silk and Steel Strings - Any Comments

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ladinsky14
Posted 2005-02-28 3:11 PM (#161501)
Subject: Silk and Steel Strings - Any Comments


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Has anybody tried using Silk and Steel strings on their Ovations? I'm looking for feedback - either positive or negative on the use of these type strings. I recently had an electric setup and asked the tech about these - he said they make playing the acoustic a lot easier.

Thanks,

Lou
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MWoody
Posted 2005-02-28 3:15 PM (#161502 - in reply to #161501)
Subject: Re: Silk and Steel Strings - Any Comments



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I put a set on my AA12, a 1/2 size Applause. I was hoping to take out some of the "small" sound. They sound smoover for that one than the 80/20 Bronzes.

I have not tried them on a full size O. I would guess they are more mellow and less treble resonant.
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stephent28
Posted 2005-02-28 3:36 PM (#161503 - in reply to #161501)
Subject: Re: Silk and Steel Strings - Any Comments



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Who makes the Silk and Steel and what is the difference? Are they steel core with a silk wrap?
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schroeder
Posted 2005-02-28 3:46 PM (#161504 - in reply to #161501)
Subject: Re: Silk and Steel Strings - Any Comments


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Rotosound make them in the Uk. CL5 is the number. Silk wound on steel core - wound 3rd, top 2 plain piano wire. Best strings in the histary of the universe. Only reccommended for finger-picking. The balance string-to-string is absolutely fantastic.

I rather like them.
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ladinsky14
Posted 2005-02-28 5:14 PM (#161505 - in reply to #161501)
Subject: Re: Silk and Steel Strings - Any Comments


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I was interested in trying these Silk and Steel strings since they are lower tension strings and would be easier on the fingers. I am currently using Phospher Bronze Lights which sound great, but was looking for something easier to play. Do you sacrifice a lot of tone using these and can they be used for general purpose play and not just fingerpicking?

Thanks again

Lou
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alpep
Posted 2005-02-28 5:18 PM (#161506 - in reply to #161501)
Subject: Re: Silk and Steel Strings - Any Comments


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I used to put them on 12 strings that had necks that were going south.

they sound good but you lose a ton of volumne. they are often good for people that don't have callouses or are learning to play
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schroeder
Posted 2005-02-28 5:21 PM (#161507 - in reply to #161501)
Subject: Re: Silk and Steel Strings - Any Comments


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They are not great for anything but fingerpicking. That is solely what they were designed for. The tone to these ears is a trillion light years better then any bronze string I ever heard. The CL in the rotosound number stands for classical - 'cos they are built exactly the same way. They come as medium tension only at the minute - I would doubt they would ever make a light tension but I can imagine a harder tension still being very playable. Try a set.
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Tommy M.
Posted 2005-02-28 5:27 PM (#161508 - in reply to #161501)
Subject: Re: Silk and Steel Strings - Any Comments


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I used to use them years ago. I believe that you do scrafice the crisp tone of a steel or bronze string with them. Easier on the fingertips though.
Tommy
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2005-02-28 5:28 PM (#161509 - in reply to #161501)
Subject: Re: Silk and Steel Strings - Any Comments


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Good for lightly built instruments or turn of the (19th)century pinned-bridge flattops originally intended for gut strings. Also good for beginners or anyone who suffers from carpel-tunnel, RSI or tendonitis. Balance is generally good & tone is less strident than bronze or phosphor bronze, but as Al said you'll lose a lot of tone & volume on a guitar designed & braced for regular steel strings.
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schroeder
Posted 2005-02-28 6:09 PM (#161510 - in reply to #161501)
Subject: Re: Silk and Steel Strings - Any Comments


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I must be living on another planet.
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xnoel
Posted 2005-02-28 7:16 PM (#161511 - in reply to #161501)
Subject: Re: Silk and Steel Strings - Any Comments


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So, if I understand, these would work great on a classical, for instance a 1613? I would guess continual stretching of nylon strings would also be eliminated.
Am I right?
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MWoody
Posted 2005-02-28 8:57 PM (#161512 - in reply to #161501)
Subject: Re: Silk and Steel Strings - Any Comments



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I would not put the Silk & Steel on a Classical.

According to www.juststrings.com

S&S J40 121.8 lbs. tension

Pro arte Hard EJ46 86.9 lbs of tension.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2005-02-28 9:14 PM (#161513 - in reply to #161501)
Subject: Re: Silk and Steel Strings - Any Comments



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Hi,

I've used them in the past. Less volume, different sound, (not bad, just different), and black fingers after playing, especially when new.

I like D'Addario Phosphor Bronze the best.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2005-03-01 6:04 AM (#161514 - in reply to #161501)
Subject: Re: Silk and Steel Strings - Any Comments


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Originally posted by MWoody:
I would not put the Silk & Steel on a Classical.

According to www.juststrings.com

S&S J40 121.8 lbs. tension

Pro arte Hard EJ46 86.9 lbs of tension.
Ovation classics are built much heavier than traditional nylon string guitars, plus they have a neck-rod, they'll take silk & steel tension easily.
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