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| I have an Ovation guitar that belonged to my father. I know very little about the guitar - my father passed away when I was young and he had the guitar for as long as I can remember - so I just cracked the code and found out the following:
Model Number: 1117-4
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Acoustic Roundback
Standard bowl, 5 13/16" deep
Glen Campbell Artist Balladeer
Natural
Serial Number: 099749
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086001-103000 1977 (Jan-Sept)
I have read other posts where the Campbell models are in demand? Does this mean the guitar is hard to find?
Thanks for any thoughts on the subject. |
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Location: SoCal | 1117 is a Legend, not a Glen Campbell model (the former is a deep bowl, the latter a shallow or mid depth bowl). Both are traded on ebay for about $350. |
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| Thanks for the info! I appreciate it.
One more question - where did I go wrong in the code cracking? Those are definately the numbers on the guitar. You mention that it was a Legend model, but I don't recall seeing a Legend entry on the code table.
I'm not questioning your input, I just want to understand how you determined it.
Thanks again. |
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Location: SoCal | I know it from way too many years of looking at and playing Ovations. I have a model 1117-4 (deep bowl legend with a natural top). A Glen Campbell model is 1127 dash whatever (the number after the dash indicates the top color).
Somebody confirm me on this as I'm doing it from memory. I gotta go out and get a life! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Paul is 100% correct. 1117 is Legend deep bowl. 1127 is Glen Campbell artist bowl. Dave |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | For the record, there were only two production Glen models, a mid 6 string 1127/1627 and the deep 12 string 1118/1618. |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Bill, actually there was one more,the Glen Campbell model without a model number.It was just called "Glen Campbell model".It was the only deep bowl version of the GC model before it went to the 1127 and 1627 model number.Those had the artist size bowl....So, there were 3 total |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | My understanding is that the pre-model number Deluxe and GC were as follows:
Deluxe Balladeer had deep shiny bowl, inlaid rosette, diamond markers at 12 fret only, no binding on fingerboard, "Deluxe" on headstock.
The first GC had deep shiny bowl, inlaid rosette, all diamond markers, bound fingerboard, "Deluxe" on headstock w/ GC rod cover. 12 string version had plain rod cover and Glen Campbell signature on headstock. Some very early ones had the classic sized soundhole.
Then when 4 digit model numbers were introduced, the original GC lost the GC rod cover, got a textured bowl, stick-on rosette and was called the 1117 Legend.
The same guitar was given the artist bowl and the GC rod cover the called the 1127 Glen Campbell Artist Balladeer. The 12 string kept the deep bowl (textured), lost the signature on the headstock, got GC rod cover and was called the 1118 Glen Campbell 12-string.
Later 1617, 1627, 1618 A/E versions. I'll try to post some photos of these pre-model number ones.
Dave
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| Using Kaman's code I am inclinded to think the original posting was correct that it is a Glen Cambell Artist Balladeer. Also in Walter Carter's book "History of the Ovation" it says in June of 1972 the 1117 Deluxe Balladeer was renamed Legend. So maybe everyone is actually correct It just depends on the year of manufacture.
I have another one for you that I am trying to figure out. I have a model 1658 12 string. Using the code it is an acoustic electric, custom legend 12 string, Glen Cambell 12 string. Go figure. I will describe it; abalone purfling, rosette, and fret board markers just like a custom legend. Carved walnut bridge like a custom legend. Split head stock and joined at the 12th fret like a Glen Cambell model. I have never seen another one like it and I bought it used. Manufactured in 1979. Any ideas?
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Location: Phoenix AZ | What you have is a 12-string custom legend. The logic in model number goes something like this.
1115/1615 is Pacemaker 12-string
1117/1617 is Legend 6 string
1127/1627 is GC 6 string
1118/1618 is GC 12-string
1119/1619 is Custom Legend 6 string
1158/1658 is Custom Legend 12-string. WHY ???
My guess is that they choose to use the 8 because it is based on the GC 12-string size and specs, but stuck a 5 before it to indicate it had extra features like the abalone trim, carved bridge, etc. I think the 1658 was a short lived product whcih is a shame, because I remenber seeing one in a shop and it was very, very nice. Nicer than the GC in my opinion. In black it was downright stunning. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | We chose the 8 because the option was 5 or 8. 5 is the lesser and 8 is the more and since it's a custom legend it got 8. If it's not 1118 or 1618, it's not a GC.
Sam, you're right, forgot about those. There weren't very many
In cracking the code it should be pointed out that about the mid 80's the code doesn't work anymore. The MP's got involved in assigning numbers and took it away from engineering and it became FUBAR. |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Sam, you're right, forgot about those. There weren't very many
ckwtwo;
Any idea how many? Fifty (+ -)?
Wayne |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | No idea how many but to make it fun we could say there were 39 and they all had lables signed in red by Sandy Cassiani. |
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Possible Glen Cambell Model?
