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can u stop downgrading my guitar paul???:)
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 15 | eh hi paul my guitar is nuthin like that ...piece of crap lol u always seem to say something negative about my guitar plz stop it man :( its really not a crap guitar and by the pic i have up its nuthin like that gbase axe......... | ||
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| alpep |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10583 Location: NJ | post a pic | ||
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| Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | I apologise if you have interpreted my attempts to identify & value your guitar as "negative", this was neither my motivation or intention. If I have information to share with the board it is because I believe it to be accurate or because it comes from my personal experience. I always try to be as accurate as possible, which I did in this case, given the rather sketchy details you provided. There were very few Celebrity solidbody models & most were of the superstrat style similar to the Gbase pic. Celebrity guitars are intended as entry-level instruments and their current used value reflects the design, materials & hardware used in such instruments regardless of rareity. This is not being negative, merely factual, & this does not mean that the guitar is not a good instrument. Celebrity guitars generally offer a high price/performance ratio. You asked for an opinion on your guitars value, which is exactly what you got, I make no apologies if it wasn't what you wanted to hear. Maybe some other board members would like to comment. Paul [ September 03, 2002: Message edited by: Paul Templeman ] | ||
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| alpep |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10583 Location: NJ | a perfect example of why we need to keep the "what is my guitar worth" posts off the board. without a pic and sketchy information ninja should have expected no replies and paul you made a nobel effort to help but now who knows what is going on. If you are generally interested in finding out a value there are tons of sources OTHER than this board | ||
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| cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | post a pic. | ||
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| innerman |
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Joined: July 2002 Posts: 327 Location: Houston, TX | Post a pic. Paul, as usual, took the time to offer fair and accurate perspective based on the available information. I would suggest that your frustration should be directed toward the music store guy who gave you false info on the guitar's value. End the mystery, post a pic. | ||
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| musicamex |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 873 Location: puerto vallarta, mexico | i read through all of the related posts again, and found nothing but honest feedback, especially from paul t. he is a knowledgable source of experience and information. i for one am grateful when he takes the time to post an answer to my questions. if you love your guitar and it blows your hair back----far out. but based on the info you supplied (no photo) and owning about 15 ovation solid bodies i think you got a good honest reply. i think if you want someone to tell you have a mercedes and not a kia you better go back to the guy who said it was worth a grand. that doesn't mean you cant make great music with it. what it's worth to you and what is worth to sell can be and often are very different. | ||
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| snowlock |
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Joined: July 2002 Posts: 162 Location: Pennsylvania | Yes. The music you make and the price or make of the guitar are often two seperate things. If you can make the guitar sound great, or you like the way the guitar compliments your style, then go with it. That however, does not make it worth more, or make it of better quality. But if it's what you like, than good!!! I own a cheap danelectro hodad and would take it over a standard single-coil strat any day!! It's personal choice, and I like the way it sounds for me (though I rarely use it now). Ever seen that one leo kottke video (the name escapes me), but he has an acoustic guitar that he accidentally put a foot through the back, and he taped up the hole with duct tape. Guess what? He can make the guitar sound awesome. It is often the player behind the guitar. No one ever said your guitar was total crap. They just honestly answered the value, quality, and rarity. If you like the guitar, then we're all glad for you. Don't ask a question here and not expect an honest answer. Value has nothing to do with whether you think its good. So if you like it, awesome. [ September 03, 2002: Message edited by: snowlock ] | ||
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| musicamex |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 873 Location: puerto vallarta, mexico | one thing that sort of follows this somewhat frayed thread is --------- you can't put a price on having something that is different that also works well. i've got a number of guitars from before i discovered ovations almost 3 decades ago. they never collectively generated as much interest, started as many conversations, and introduced me to as many interesting people as any single ovation i own. it is pretty obvious an ovation player is a maverick and in most cases chose an ovation after playing it and not because the rest of the sheep in his flock had a "G" or a "T" painted on their fleeces. if you chose your ovation because you really liked it and not because you got talked into it, more power to ya. you belong here. you will get honest information from guys who in some cases were raised in the trenches. there isn't a better place for information about ovations. if this site was around long ago i wouldn't own a few ovations i bought thinking all models were as good as my old balladeer. and i would have been buying a few more of the ones that turn my crank. and please post that pic!!! you have us all curious now. | ||
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| Bluebird |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1445 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Hey Russ, speaking of pictures, how about a few shots of that Brownbird!! Wayne | ||
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| Bailey |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 3005 Location: Las Cruces, NM | Darkninja Do you want to play it or do you want to sell it? If you want to play it, most on this site would help you in any way, if you want to sell it, there aren't many here that will buy it unless it's worth something and they know what it's worth. This board is not a place to dispose of somebody's instrument like a flea market. Make up your mind. Bailey [ September 04, 2002: Message edited by: Bailey ] | ||
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| Mr. Ovation |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7247 Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | D'Ninja, I guess what everyone is saying, in a more streamlined summary is that "worth" means many MANY many... (did type many) things. Ask yourself these questions. I think you will come up with some interesting answers. I know I did. - How much did I pay for it. - How much would I pay for it now. - How much would I sell it for. - How much would I like it insured for. - How much can I sell it for (current market). I have the final Breadwinner prototype. The one that modeled all others that follow. It's documented too. If I had to answer the above... - I don't remember, so I will combine "how much I would" and "how much I did" into $1000. - I would sell it for $10,000 if someone handed me the cash. I would rather display it, or sell it to a museum or something. - It should be insured for at least $5000.00 - I could probably get $600-800 on the current market, unless I got lucky. If you want a more extreme example... I have an 1812 (yes the year) "Brown" drum in mint condition. I used it when I was in a Drum and Fife Corp in CT. It's "worth" probably 30K, I wouldn't sell it for less than 100K and I could probably get only get $400 on eBay. There are a few Civil War period drums on at this time... none in even playable condition.. Why... no one buys them. The tradition is that you pass it along to another player. I was fortunate enough that my dad "rescued" this one from becoming a coffee table, and I think he paid $20 for it. Beauty and "worth" are in the eyes of the beholder. [ September 04, 2002: Message edited by: Mr. Ovation ] | ||
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| Woz |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 389 Location: RI. That small State out East | True story: The banter "feedback" saved me from making a bad Adamas purchase a few months back. I was high bid and intended to be the winning bid on what looked like a "nice" guitar. Late at night... I read a post about "my guitar"!!! It had a bridge crack and replacement pins drilled into the bridge. In my "I've got to have it fevor" I didn't notice. DA! I had done all the(has the guitar had any major repairs)questions with the seller. Not as long as he had it. Was the answer. This board kicked "my guitar" all to hell. "I hope the buyer knows what he's getting" Someone questioned if the drilling into the bridge for the pins would affect the bracing? What a mess, was one comment. It can still be a nice guitar. Bought at a "value". But this wasn't my dream guitar. This board and its "candor" saved my but. To all with an educated opinion keep on. Woz | ||
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can u stop downgrading my guitar paul???:)