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MrDano
Posted 2004-10-06 11:30 AM (#176671)
Subject: Opinions on this 1984 Collectors


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I could use some help on this gang. This is one attractive looking guitar - but not one bid on it - which of course made me go hmmmmm!

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3751569197&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

The bidding ended - but the owner is willing to do a private deal. Still - I'm leery since there was no bids on the original auction. If anyone has any insight - I could sure use it!

Dano
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Country Artist
Posted 2004-10-06 12:11 PM (#176672 - in reply to #176671)
Subject: Re: Opinions on this 1984 Collectors



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It is nice and I was interested but I have seen them go for less money, like about $450 or less.
That is why I did not bid.
This model is Pre-OP-24 preamp. It has the volume/tone concentric knobs.
But it is my favorite of the Collectors editions.

Serge

www.sergiolara.com
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2004-10-06 12:12 PM (#176673 - in reply to #176671)
Subject: Re: Opinions on this 1984 Collectors



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The '84 Collectors' is a nice guitar, although the electronics are antiquated. If aged nicely, it should sound good. In another thread CWK says that the '84 is the only one he has, and he could probably have any of them.

In this case, the price is too high. This seller has had this guitar up for auction several times at the $525 opening bid price with no takers. Can't take a hint, it seems.

It isn't about whether the guitar is actually worth that much as much as it is a question of current market value. More than 2500 of them were produced, so they are not particularly rare and are not really in demand.

If it doesn't sell this time, offer $400 - $450, remembering that you'll have to pay more for shipping and add customs duties, etc.
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MrDano
Posted 2004-10-06 2:04 PM (#176674 - in reply to #176671)
Subject: Re: Opinions on this 1984 Collectors


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Now this is what it's all about!!

Gents, thanks so much for the input and advice, your help is invaluable and I appreciate it.

Dano
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an4340
Posted 2004-10-06 3:11 PM (#176675 - in reply to #176671)
Subject: Re: Opinions on this 1984 Collectors


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I've heard this guitar (not THIS guitar, but another one) in my friend's band in florida, and it's great. Nice bright tone, really good for lead work.
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45flint
Posted 2004-10-06 5:11 PM (#176676 - in reply to #176671)
Subject: Re: Opinions on this 1984 Collectors


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This was main guitar for years. It is great and had the best fingering of any ovation I ever played. I gave it to my son when I got a 1993 collectors. Wish I had it back. But it is good hands.

Steve
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Beal
Posted 2004-10-06 6:17 PM (#176677 - in reply to #176671)
Subject: Re: Opinions on this 1984 Collectors



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Mine has the OP-24 in it. I think that came out in 84 so I had it put in. Mine is one of two prototypes made(s/n110283), one natural (mine) and one black, both bearclaw tops(regular tops were used in production since we thought we couldn't get 2000+ bearclaw tops. A correct assumption). I had my bowl painted black when the electronics went in. It was my main guitar for 10 years. The tension rod began to uncurl and came out the back of the neck (1st fret area) so I had another neck put on and never used it. Last winter I had that excellent service dept make a 1 3/4 fat neck (ya'll may have heard I like them like that) and it's back in the stable again. Kind of funny, the only Ovation in the house (except a mando(lynn and chello) and a bass)

This auction guy, is he the same guy that has the store "Guitar Broker"? Craig Brody. If that's the guy MrDano you can relax on the trust issue, just work out the price.
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MrDano
Posted 2004-10-06 9:38 PM (#176678 - in reply to #176671)
Subject: Re: Opinions on this 1984 Collectors


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Again - thanks everyone. Bill - your advice is well taken. I'm sending an offer out this evening.

I'll let you all know how it looks if it gets a chance to join the team!!

Dano
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Mr. Adamas
Posted 2004-10-06 10:10 PM (#176679 - in reply to #176671)
Subject: Re: Opinions on this 1984 Collectors


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Mr. cwk2, are you the son of Charles Karman, founder & boss of Ovation? Your 1984 is certainly one of a kind, with bearclaw natural top plus other mods.

We are talking about a regular production 1984 collector's edition here. What is the difference between this regular 1984 & shallow bowl Elite?

Just curious why you only have 1 Ovation (no Adamas??) but spent $$$ on other expensive guitars like Collings? How do you compare Collings vs Ovation? Are they overpriced or not?
I have too many Ovation & am seriously thinking about upgrading to Collings.
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-10-06 10:20 PM (#176680 - in reply to #176671)
Subject: Re: Opinions on this 1984 Collectors



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Heeeeere we go .....

Bill, isn't the answer why you buy expensive guitars the same as why a dog licks his balls ... because he CAN !!!
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MrDano
Posted 2004-10-07 8:57 AM (#176681 - in reply to #176671)
Subject: Re: Opinions on this 1984 Collectors


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hehehe, I've been called a dog before - but not for the same reason Bill can purchase those Colling's :D
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cliff
Posted 2004-10-07 9:24 AM (#176682 - in reply to #176671)
Subject: Re: Opinions on this 1984 Collectors


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Boy! . . . if I could do that, I'd never leave the house!!!


(uhhhhhh, . . . . buy a Collings, that is . . .) ;)
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Beal
Posted 2004-10-07 9:35 AM (#176683 - in reply to #176671)
Subject: Re: Opinions on this 1984 Collectors



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I always heard that the reason dogs do that is because they can't make a fist.

Not alot of difference between the 84 and production elite supershaller bowl, cosmetic only I think.

Why is there only 1 (4 actually but who's counting) in the house. Long story, let's just say my endorsement deal expired in '98. Sometimes there are 3 slotheads hanging out. There are others in the basement, the super legend prototype(elite) and a refurbished Josh White and some more. There are several Hamers.

As to the 5 Collings, they are wonderful guitars and sound great. They are Brazilian Rosewood and one maple. They cost alot and are as mentioned fancy furniture, a seagul would probably sound 90% as good. However I can probably get my money back out of them whenever I go to sell them, others I'm not so sure about. A new Martin would take a hit as would a Santa Cruz and some of the others. An Olsen would probably make you money. They hold their value. The Nationals are mostly all originals(1927-1934) and are lovely investments that make nice noise. I've sold some and haven't lost money yet on one.
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