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Location: Chicago | question for anyone who might have a clue. I have a custom Ledgend and am thinking about installing a sunrise pickup in the soundhole. Best of both worlds ovation
factory pickup blended with magnetic . Has anyone tried this? Is it worth the trouble?
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Location: SoCal | first of all...I don't have a clue ;)
what model, what pre-amp
and, why?
I have eleven Custom Legends from 1978-2004 and a Custom Elite. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Sunrise is a good pickup. It will give you a wider variety of sounds. Are you going to have two outputs and mix them externally? Getting the two to mix within the preamp onboard is pretty tricky, well above my pay grade to tell you how to do it. |
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Location: Scotland | The Sunrise is about the best magnetic available, it's only downsides are it's price and it's bulk. Close seconds are the Fishman Rare Earth (active single coil version) and the Baggs M1. Bill's right, needs to be on a separate output with each pickup into independant channels. |
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Location: SoCal | ok, as I said, I don't have a clue...
either for the older w/stereo or the newer OP's...what is the advantage of a centerhole p/u?
if recording, wouldn't a mike(s) do the same thing? if performing, would it really make a difference? |
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Location: Carle Place, NY | Bryan:
Before you spend big bucks on a soundhole pick-up why don't you try something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Bill-Lawrence-Acoustic-Guitar-Soundhole-Pickup-...
I don't think that these are made anymore, but they are pretty good. I had one many years ago. This one even has a volume control. |
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Location: Chicago | thanks for all the great input. First of all let me say I already own the sunrise. My Ovation is a 1995 Custom Ledgend (great guitar) I should say its a shallow . The only thing I can think of is to run two seperate signals and preamp each one. Man its alot of work but it seems like it would be a very big sound. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Mitch,
They still make the Bill Lawrence pickups and they work pretty well. I used one on my Matrix until I got so many electrics that I enjoyed the Matrix more for its deep-bowl acoustic sound. I don't have the one with the volume control and mine is pretty quiet. |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Several decades ago I used a Bill Lawrence on my acoustic only 1112-4. Worked good. |
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Location: SoCal | back in early 80's, used a Lawrence for my 1158 CL 12-str...was never happy with it.
gave it to Serge.
using a Dean Markley ProMag Plus. |
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Location: Carle Place, NY | The Lawrence p/u does have some balance problems between strings. I remember that the unwound B string was noticably louder than the wound G string. However as an addition to the piezo, I think that it could work well and add some dynamics or for a lead boost if played though a compressor and/or distortion box and then to an electric amp. |
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Location: Scotland | In it's day the Lawrence was OK, it's been far surpassed now. The reason the Lawrence had balance problems was like most soundhole magnetics it was marketed as being suitable for bronze or phos/bronze strings, which is total bollocks. When they manage to defy the laws of physics and make non-ferrous metals have the same magnetic properties as ferrous metals they'll be able to make a mag pickup that works with bronze strings. Even the best of the current magnetics (including the Sunrise) regardless of whatever claims the manufacturers may make about compatibility with bronze strings, all sound better with nickel strings. Try putting a set of bronze strings on a Strat and see how it sounds. Leo Kottke used Lawrence pickups for years, and he used to glue half a cotter pin onto the pickup under the second string in an attempt to tame it. |
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