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jay
Posted 2014-08-08 7:38 AM (#491192)
Subject: This is like a Sally Struthers Commercial



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Poor Shiny ... Woody or Dan save her.

What is odd and maybe that is why its a 2...is that the back of the head doesnt appear to flow on to the neck. 

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Standingovation
Posted 2014-08-08 8:27 AM (#491195 - in reply to #491192)
Subject: Re: This is like a Sally Struthers Commercial



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DanSavage
Posted 2014-08-08 9:16 AM (#491196 - in reply to #491192)
Subject: Re: This is like a Sally Struthers Commercial



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Location: Pueblo West, CO		It's located just a few miles away from me. I'll keep an eye on it.
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Geostorm98
Posted 2014-08-08 3:52 PM (#491211 - in reply to #491192)
Subject: RE: This is like a Sally Struthers Commercial



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Location: New Hartford CT		I'm not sure even Dan Salvage, ooops I mean Dan Savage could save this old wreck... but I would never say it couldn't be done.

Have enjoyed your work posts on the forum Dan.
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MWoody
Posted 2014-08-08 4:06 PM (#491213 - in reply to #491192)
Subject: Re: This is like a Sally Struthers Commercial



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jay
Posted 2014-08-08 5:22 PM (#491216 - in reply to #491211)
Subject: RE: This is like a Sally Struthers Commercial



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Geo...did you look at the back of the head to neck transition...is it me, or is that someone taking creative license?

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MWoody
Posted 2014-08-08 7:20 PM (#491217 - in reply to #491192)
Subject: Re: This is like a Sally Struthers Commercial



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Location: Upper Left USA		The "2" stamp is for a unit returned from a shop, repaired and identified as a manufacturer's second.

That would definitely be a Labor of Love project but it keeps the BFLG off the streets at night.
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jay
Posted 2014-08-08 7:53 PM (#491218 - in reply to #491217)
Subject: Re: This is like a Sally Struthers Commercial



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The head even broke right on the 2. Like it was the "scarlet number"

What I was looking at was the different transition of:

VS

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MWoody
Posted 2014-08-08 9:04 PM (#491219 - in reply to #491192)
Subject: Re: This is like a Sally Struthers Commercial



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Here's some similar era.

 



Edited by MWoody 2014-08-08 9:10 PM
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jay
Posted 2014-08-08 11:10 PM (#491221 - in reply to #491219)
Subject: Re: This is like a Sally Struthers Commercial



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Mike, we have the same two piece! 

Thanks for posting those necks. I guess if they are hand made, that transition was very individual to that neck. But maybe there was a move to have more of an edge there

My 68 is a little more defined in that area, upon inspection



Edited by jay 2014-08-08 11:19 PM
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Geostorm98
Posted 2014-08-09 12:18 PM (#491224 - in reply to #491216)
Subject: RE: This is like a Sally Struthers Commercial



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Location: New Hartford CT		Jay, my Dad's old '67 #698 DB has the same sort of transition to the headstock...and has the factory second '2' stamp as well. Similarities end there fortunately and it remains a beautiful and solid example of the original style Ovations.

Who knows why some of these old guitars were marked as seconds? I'm sure someone long ago had their reasons.

This transition area was hand carved (with compressed air die grinders, brush sanders, orbital sanders and finally the human hand) until the CMS came online and reduced the hand carving aspect of the neck almost entirely. Mostly only light sanding remained. I'll never forget losing the job to that huge computer controlled behemoth...but personally I don't think the necks were ever quite as nice when they were carved by hand. The human element cannot be overstated. I guess that's why Martin has a small workshop to this day, where processes from their founding years are still employed. Vastly more expensive, but superior results.

So you can look at this transition area and see variability dependent on who carved it, within the given range of acceptability. I carved around 70,000 necks and sometimes I swear I can spot one that I did during my carving years.

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muzza
Posted 2014-08-10 6:27 PM (#491257 - in reply to #491192)
Subject: RE: This is like a Sally Struthers Commercial



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That guitar looks like it was an extra in one of the battle scenes from 'Vikings' or 'Game of Thrones'.

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