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bidd1349
Posted 2006-02-18 11:07 AM (#265875)
Subject: Help! New Ovation owner with question


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I just recently picked up a 1985 Ovation Ultra Series 1312-4. The label inside the guitar says "A Kaman Music Product - Made in USA". After finding this site (very helpful by the way) I have a question about the serial number in the guitar. The serial number inside the guitar is 066362 - which according to the Ovation web-site does not match the year guitar that I have. By the way - I have the original sales reciept, and the serial number matches that.

I have not been able to find many reviews or information for this guitar - I paid $190 for the guitar, which was less than was originally paid in 1985 ($212).

Any thoughs on the serial number issue and value???
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OldLiverJones
Posted 2006-02-18 11:19 AM (#265876 - in reply to #265875)
Subject: Re: Help! New Ovation owner with question


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It sounds like you got a fake chinese copy.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-02-18 11:25 AM (#265877 - in reply to #265875)
Subject: Re: Help! New Ovation owner with question


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I couldn't tell you anything about the value. If you like the guitar, then it was worth what you paid.

As to the serial number, I don't know if the Ultra's were ever in the same serial number line as the other USA built Ovations. It's entirely possible that the number was part of the overseas line, in which case you'll never be able to corrolate it to anything.

Of course, I could be all wrong.......
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stonebobbo
Posted 2006-02-18 12:57 PM (#265878 - in reply to #265875)
Subject: Re: Help! New Ovation owner with question



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My USA Ultra (1311) has a s/n that is in line with other US O's, but mine is from 1982. At some point, the 1312 production was moved to Korea, not sure when.
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ignimbyte
Posted 2006-02-18 9:02 PM (#265879 - in reply to #265875)
Subject: Re: Help! New Ovation owner with question


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I've never owned an Ultra, but based on the serial number alone, it looks like a guitar made in the far east, with the a "made in USA" sticker put on by mistake? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Good luck.
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Beal
Posted 2006-02-19 9:19 AM (#265880 - in reply to #265875)
Subject: Re: Help! New Ovation owner with question



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Moosup closed during 82 so if this is an 85 it woukld come from across the Pacific.
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bidd1349
Posted 2006-02-19 11:21 AM (#265881 - in reply to #265875)
Subject: Re: Help! New Ovation owner with question


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All,

Appreciate the feedback. I did pose this question to Ovation, I'm curious to thier response also. Not sure how you could label a guitar "Made in USA" and actually produce it in another country. I guess its hard to put a value on the guitar, but I do like the guitar - it sounds and plays good. This was kind of a shot in the dark when I purchased this guitar online - I have always wanted an Ovation. This is definately a great website - and I appreciate the responses. If I find more information on this guitar - I will post...

Again, thanks to all who replied...

Gregg
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-02-19 12:09 PM (#265882 - in reply to #265875)
Subject: Re: Help! New Ovation owner with question


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I think you should sue Ovation for false labeling....
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Beal
Posted 2006-02-19 12:22 PM (#265883 - in reply to #265875)
Subject: Re: Help! New Ovation owner with question



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The lables in that time period were pretty accurate. Maybe it's an import neck and US bowl?
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TommyK
Posted 2006-02-22 3:10 PM (#265884 - in reply to #265875)
Subject: Re: Help! New Ovation owner with question


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I don't know about O's but disreputable people are getting really sophisticated at
counterfeiting guitars. There are even a blank Epiphone and Gibson labels for sale on Ebay.

This may not be the case here, but caveat emptor!
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Beal
Posted 2006-02-22 4:31 PM (#265885 - in reply to #265875)
Subject: Re: Help! New Ovation owner with question



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Of all the Ovation copies over the years that I've seen you could always tell, easily that it was a copy. There just isn't enough money to do a deafd nuts copy. When you can get 20-30,000 or more for a fake (like a les paul or flying V) then there may be some but all that work for a few hundred or even $1000 just ain't worth it.
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bidd1349
Posted 2006-02-22 8:34 PM (#265886 - in reply to #265875)
Subject: Re: Help! New Ovation owner with question


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This is the answer that I received back from Ovation. I did inquire about where those sets of serial numbers would be - no answer yet...

Date: 2/20/2006 8:36:25 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: askus@ovationguitars.com

The Ultra Series had their own set of serial numbers apart from the regular USA models.
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