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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Watched and taped the Rod Stewart concert on A&E, When he did the oblgatory Maggie May, the mandolin part was done on an Ovation mandolin. It sounded fine. Ovations keep showing up here and there.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | It's lovely when that happens isn't it? Of course most of those videos are many years old. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | This Rod Stewart concert is excellent. I think it's from a few months ago. The "American Classics" CD is really fantastic. Some of his renditions to me sound better than the original releases. I had a hard time spotting the mando with that Sax player in the way :) ... Actually she was onstage twice before I noticed her carrying a sax :) but I digress..... Rod has a rough life.... |
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Location: NJ | Rod singing the "classics" cut me a break... go on tour with Ron Wood and do the first 3 solo lp's and some small faces stuff now that would be great!!!!! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | that would be reallllly good |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | yes, that would be fantastic!
...But keep that sax player! |
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Location: NJ | I'm takin' a WILD guess here (since I didn't see it), but was the sax player by chance a slender young thing with long-ish wavy blonde hair? If so, it MIGHT have been Candy Dulfer, but I'm just taking a shot in the dark here.
When my guitarist and I do the acoustic duo gigs, we do "Maggie's" mandolin part on guitars, Rick playing an open guitar and mine capoed at the 7th fret, and I must admit it comes off rather well.
(I know!, I know Bailey!! . . pooh-pooh the capo . . . "play in positions" and all that rot, but I don't care if you've got eight fingers on your left hand, there are still some instances where it's just not possible to get all the right "voicings" and such without the capo, and this is just one of 'em.
If/when the time comes when I can afford an Ovation mandolin (I have to master my new ukelele first), I'll lose the capo (except for those James Taylor and Jethro Tull tunes) ;) . |
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Location: SoCal | Bailey:
FYI, Glen Campbell made a fortune as a studio musician in the 60's casue he was the only one who knew how to use a capo and get those "ringing chords" in Eb and Ab and the other odd keys. Capos can be good things for rhythm guitar. |
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Location: Scotland | While I think it's important that a guitarist should be able to play in any key without a capo, it's foolish to dimiss the capo as a crutch for the musically inept. Capos are incredibly useful tools when used correctly & creatively.
Incidentally my band play the old Rod Stewart/Ronnie Laine song "Ooh La La" where I play the original fiddle part on my Ovation Mandolin. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Capo's are sometimes necessary due to position. I'm more of a guitarist than a musician, but I'm sure there are more examples than "Don't Fear The Reaper" in which a CAPO was originally used to raise the key because there is a note from the 1st chord that must sustain through the next 2 chords. If not played in the "first position" you would have to USE that string to make the other chords in the progression. I have seen it done, but it just doesn't sound right.
This is a little off topic, but my take one "whammy" bars is also from a different angle... I don't use the bar to bend notes at all, I use it to create different counds. You may be able to "bend" a note down two steps with "tuner" tricks and whatever, but it won't "SOUND" like it does when done with a trem system. I also know of no way to create the sound of dropping an entire chord down a couple of steps. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Guys
I was just kidding about the capo, I use them on my guitar as you all do, I figured it would get a response, truthfully only violinists play in positions. However, I watched John Hiatt on Austin CL Sat night and his mandolin player was USING A CAPO. The Rod Stewart concert is very new as he just released a CD with the Frank Sinatra songs that he covered in the concert. I taped the concert and I'll see if I can find the identity of the sax player, she was definitely as good a player as she was a looker. My wife is a big band fanatic and a Sinatra fan and she was impressed by the concert, except she kept standing between me and the screen during the sax solos, I didn't know why until I played the tape later and saw that the sax player wasn't an aged hippie with a beard. His other mini skirted horn players and the mandolin player were all right too, I had visions of her playing in positions when she did a violin part also. Sorry dubyatoo, this concert was not an ancient video in 50's black and white as you suspected, you're missing some good entertainment quality here.
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Hey Cliff!
When I play Maggie at solo gigs, I do a "mutated" version of the mandolin parts that sounds pretty convincing on my 12 string without a capo. I strum the chords on the first beat and let it ring while playing the melody at the same time for the rest of the measure, and do the same for each chord. It's really challenging to hold the chord down while playing the melody, (and I had to revoice them to make it work without 6 fingers!) but it sounds full enough to pull it off. Just an idea to try if you ever play it solo.
By the way, I was wondering how the gig went on Thanksgiving eve in Wharton? I was planning to come, and had it on the calander, but ended up having to work very late that night. Argh!
All the best!
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Ovation mando in Rod Stewart concert
