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Location: undisclosed | I slept on this one and decided to offer my services if Matt is busy. Since I don't have a origin bias send all prototypes to me for objective evaluation. Return postage is not warratied but if I dont like how they sound I'll work on it until I do and post my findings. You can trust me to be unbiased, I drive old Volvos but once replaced the clutch on a 49 Chevy pickup. |
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| not a problem, just need the name as it appears on the card, expiration date 16 digit number and the three digit security number on the back of your card  |
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Location: Texas | Yeah...go ahead and post that info...I want one also. |
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | xraiderman - 2015-08-25 10:36 AM
not a problem, just need the name as it appears on the card, expiration date 16 digit number and the three digit security number on the back of your card
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Location: undisclosed | xraiderman - 2015-08-25 8:36 AM
not a problem, just need the name as it appears on the card, expiration date 16 digit number and the three digit security number on the back of your card
Whoops, I can see it's time for the department of corrections here. First, there is a error above, the clutch went into a 48 Chevy pickup.
Second, I don't know how they do it but some of the Ovation USA fans have offered to supply your credit card info for any overseas guitar I review because they don't want me burdened with a guitar that might not have comparable value.
Feelings do run strong on this one...... in the interest of objectivity cash should probably stay off the table. |
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| I am a newbie when it comes to Ovation guitars but I have one of those "crap" guitars and I love it. Just because the guitar wasn't Made in America doesn't mean it is not a fine instrument. Life is too short to be hating on where guitars come from.....just my 2 cents. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Life is too short to be shipping American Jobs overseas for the profit of a minuscule number of rich pigs.
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | It was FENDER who shipped jobs overseas. DW is the one hiring back all of our New Hartford friends. If they make some of the guitars overseas that's fine with me because they are ALSO making guitars in the USA. So it'll be like it has been since the eighties when Charlie still owned the company. Guitars at all prices, from entry level to high end and everything in between. |
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Location: undisclosed | CanterburyStrings - 2015-08-29 2:01 PM
It was FENDER who shipped jobs overseas. DW is the one hiring back all of our New Hartford friends. If they make some of the guitars overseas that's fine with me because they are ALSO making guitars in the USA. So it'll be like it has been since the eighties when Charlie still owned the company. Guitars at all prices, from entry level to high end and everything in between.
Well said.
I have a Japanese standard Strat ( not Squier) from when they made them in the 1980s, interestingly their value has increased as they were very well made. I also don't like strats enough to contemplate getting a US one...
It is a reprieve that DW is going into the guitar business. I hope the US factory does more than just make the customs as I tend to agree with Arthur's point that profits can be made if the bean counters don't get too greedy.
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | CanterburyStrings - 2015-08-29 2:01 PM
It was FENDER who shipped jobs overseas.
And Zenith. And Phillips. And RCA. And Roland.
And Levi's. And Wrangler (my Mom once made them). And GM. And Ford.
And Apple. And Hewlett Packard. And every other damn company.
The only people that are sending jobs to the USA are the Japanese.
I wasn't picking-on DW... They got what they bought (along with a bunch of percussion stuff).
I also ain't picking-on Asian-made guitars... I have a bunch.
But I have compared side-by-side a T vs. TX... And there are threads dedicated to that subject.
Korean AX Ovations are just re-branded Ultras without the New Hartford touch.
I was also in a GC Acoustic room were a used Celebrity sounded better than the Mexi-Martins.
I have a Chinese Morgan Monroe Blues 32, but the Indonesian-made Blues 32 is Better.
So contrary to what CraigB sez... it Does matter where a guitar is made.
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Location: undisclosed | I agree on Indonesia, I needed a bass for writing so picked up a Soundgear by Ibanez from a frustrated punk rocker who was quitting and was really surprised at the quality. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | MOST foreign factories will make whatever a company tells them to, at whatever level of quality they are told to make them. It is my hope that DW tells them to make guitars of higher quality than Fender did. We all know that Fender told them to just make them cheap and quality be damned.
I predict that under DW's ownership the AX and TX (if that's what they build and choose to call them) WILL compare with the good stuff made in the USA. And as I said before, the USA factory may be used to build Adamas and some new, never before seen models. They are innovative and they have the tooling and some of the former employees with experience. They may come up with something new that will blow all of our minds.
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| CanterburyStrings - 2015-08-29 5:21 PM
MOST foreign factories will make whatever a company tells them to, at whatever level of quality they are told to make them. It is my hope that DW tells them to make guitars of higher quality than Fender did. We all know that Fender told them to just make them cheap and quality be damned.
I predict that under DW's ownership the AX and TX (if that's what they build and choose to call them) WILL compare with the good stuff made in the USA. And as I said before, the USA factory may be used to build Adamas and some new, never before seen models. They are innovative and they have the tooling and some of the former employees with experience. They may come up with something new that will blow all of our minds.
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Location: Michigan | it is such a touchy subject about being built in america , but interesting enough is that i worked all of my life selling p.p.g. automotive finishes that are made in the u.s.a. and when all of the car bashing came about in the late seventies and the eighties buying a foreign car was a sin and we accepted lower quality higher priced made in the u.s.a. autos for many years stating that we want to keep the jobs here.
i am from detroit and when it comes to autos this state has a huge loyalty to buy american .
well in 2000 i bought my first new foreign car and in 2003 i bought my second one because i have been loyal to the manufacture since 1992. that company was general motors and the two vehicles that i bought were a
2000 chevy monte carlo ( made in canada ) and a
2003 chevy avalanche ( made in mexico ) , but when i told people that i had two foreign cars and told them what they were they said that is o.k. because the money comes back to the company that is based in the u.s.
i would always answer back but what about the parts that were not made here and the labor force that did not build it here or the taxes that we didn't collect from the laborers to go back into our economy.
it is a global economy now a days and thank goodness we still have a choice on where to buy any items that we please from whatever company we please so thank goodness d.w. is opening up here again.
i can buy my foreign o or i can buy my u.s.a. one , i like having choices.. GWB |
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| I agree. The standard Elite that I have was not made in the USA, but it has scalloped bracing, solid Koa top, OP-Pro electronics and there isn't a defect in the manufacturing to be found anywhere on the guitar. It sounds great and the only difference I can tell from the USA version is the cost and the USA label.
One day I hope to own a USA made Ovation, but I am very proud of of my standard Elite and don't think there is a finer guitar available for under $400.
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