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FD14 - Could You Improve It ???

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Standingovation
Posted 2005-12-29 8:58 AM (#124500)
Subject: FD14 - Could You Improve It ???



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OK, all this FD14 chatter is GREAT. And as posted many times by many members THIS is a truely great guitar and given how rare they are, I for one feel extremely fortunate to have one.

BUT, if you could re-design it what about the FD14 would you improve? Onboard preamp controls? Cutaway? Gloss finish? Fret markers?

Let's here it!

Dave
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alpep
Posted 2005-12-29 9:08 AM (#124501 - in reply to #124500)
Subject: Re: FD14 - Could You Improve It ???


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lx accoutrements
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-12-29 9:10 AM (#124502 - in reply to #124500)
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I'd make it pure acoustic. Give it a cutaway. I'd put a single thin abalone and real wood rosette and real wood binding to match.

I'd put Waverly 3on plate snakewood machines on it.

I'd keep the finger board plain (maybe a 12fret inlay) and put abalone markers on the bass side edge.

(I'd consider a contour bowl...and maybe a Redwood soundboard option...)
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Weaser P
Posted 2005-12-29 9:19 AM (#124503 - in reply to #124500)
Subject: Re: FD14 - Could You Improve It ???


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Ooo, I like the real wood binding thought...
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cliff
Posted 2005-12-29 9:25 AM (#124504 - in reply to #124500)
Subject: Re: FD14 - Could You Improve It ???


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I'd take that whole "Austere/FormFollowsFuction"-thing to the next level and do away with the binding completely, and do a top with a rounded edge that "rolls" right into the sides of the bowl (like that Balladeer-prototype that you sold a while ago, Dave). I always liked the simple look of that one . . .
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-12-29 9:30 AM (#124505 - in reply to #124500)
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I like that plain rounded edge a lot.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-12-29 9:33 AM (#124506 - in reply to #124500)
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This one ...

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cliff
Posted 2005-12-29 9:37 AM (#124507 - in reply to #124500)
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ContourBowl might be nice too (if it didn't adversely affect the sound) . . .
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stephent28
Posted 2005-12-29 9:40 AM (#124508 - in reply to #124500)
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Originally posted by Jeff W.:
I'd put a single thin abalone and real wood rosette and real wood binding to match.

I'd put Waverly 3on plate snakewood machines on it.
Those are some nice options!
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2005-12-29 9:43 AM (#124509 - in reply to #124500)
Subject: Re: FD14 - Could You Improve It ???


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Designzilla
Posted 2005-12-29 11:35 AM (#124510 - in reply to #124500)
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IMHO, actually having one in my collection would be a HUGE improvement!

The FD-14 has been at the top of my list for a while. You people sure ain't helping my gas.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-29 11:45 AM (#124511 - in reply to #124500)
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Pure acoustic, gloss neck and headstock, LX bracing and neck, wood binding. I'm not sure what I'd use for the rosette. Oh, and newer slothead headstock (if it doesn't already have it -- I can't remember and am too lazy to look).
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-12-29 12:02 PM (#124512 - in reply to #124500)
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Paul,
Is your suggestion about the newer (smaller) headstock asthetic? Or have you another idea in mind?

headstocks can serously add to sustain (and tone), and more massive the headstock, the more sustain it can contribute...

One contributing reason I think the old carved headstock models sound they way they do...

Of course this isn't the only thing....and so many factors contribute to the overall sound of an instrument...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-12-29 12:08 PM (#124513 - in reply to #124500)
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"Is your suggestion about the newer (smaller) headstock asthetic? Or have you another idea in mind?"

Yup. I think it's beautiful and modern looking. I doubt if the headstock is going to make that much differnce in the sound.
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MWoody
Posted 2005-12-29 1:12 PM (#124514 - in reply to #124500)
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I would abandon an FD14 redo and pursue a new milestone:
contour bowl
ANS neck
Slotted Head
Cedar top and Spruce model options
bass side fretboard abalone markers
unique but minimal F/B inlay
Koa or hardwood binding/purfling
12 fret to body
deep cutaway
None standard epaulets - Teardrop or oval
Bass side soundholes only
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Beal
Posted 2005-12-29 1:33 PM (#124515 - in reply to #124500)
Subject: Re: FD14 - Could You Improve It ???



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I think it should have checkerboard binding and a much larger headstock, something like a 1115 but with only 3 holes on each side. Oh and a Thunderbolt bridge. Now that would be purdy!
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-12-29 1:41 PM (#124516 - in reply to #124500)
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maybe it's a good thing you retired.... ;)
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stephent28
Posted 2005-12-29 2:16 PM (#124517 - in reply to #124500)
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but I think he is still sniffing gas fumes :eek:
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2005-12-29 2:37 PM (#124518 - in reply to #124500)
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schroeder
Posted 2005-12-29 5:41 PM (#124519 - in reply to #124500)
Subject: Re: FD14 - Could You Improve It ???


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The biggest improvement would be if Ovation offered it for sale....
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