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bottomforty
Posted 2003-10-21 10:06 PM (#202656)
Subject: Fingerstyle


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Did/does ovation ever make Balladeer priced version the Folklore?

I'm considering getting a 12 string and only using 6 strings but I know it'll look a little funky.

It seems like a cheaper wide neck guitar would be a good idea. What did Adrian Legg used to play? :eek:
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-10-22 6:03 AM (#202657 - in reply to #202656)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle


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Location: Scotland
If you prefer a wider neck the old-style 12-fret non-cutaway USA Folklores crop up regularly on ebay for sensible money. There isn't an entry-level USA guitar with a wide neck. The only wide-neck import is a 14-fret cutaway nylon-string.
Using a 12-string isn't a great idea. Generally 12-strings are built heavier & using only 6 strings will not drive the top sufficiently to produce good acoustic tone and volume.

Adrian Legg played Adamas until recently, not sure if they were wide or standard neck widths, a couple of them appear to be the wider version. Live he's been using a vaguely Breadwinner shaped solidbody acoustic and on his latest album he's switched to using a couple of handmade Brit parlour guitars by a company called Brook.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2003-10-23 9:12 AM (#202658 - in reply to #202656)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle


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I play "fingerstyle" and have 2 Balladeers (12 & 6)...

I started back in Junior High playing Classical (Andres Segovia stuff) and used a 'wide neck" guitar. I later switched to "Scruggs Style" banjo 3-finger picking which is now my main style...

I have average to small hands and have found that the "wide" necks are just too big for me to handle comfortably.. I can't stretch as many frets and always seem to miss some strings on chord changes...

The smaller necks work best for me, even though I finger pick...

tim
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Standingovation
Posted 2003-10-23 10:37 AM (#202659 - in reply to #202656)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle



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Location: Phoenix AZ
Tim,

You migrated from Segovia classical to Scruggs banjo? Now THAT'S impressive.

As far as neck width, I find the 1-3/4 neck to be perfect for me. It's slightly narrower than the Folklore (1-7/8) and slightly wider than a standard 6 string (1-11/16).

Dave
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2003-10-23 10:46 AM (#202660 - in reply to #202656)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle


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Dave,

Not as impressive as it may sound... actually it's just easier! Only 3 fingers to keep track of instead of 4!

I find that the "banjo" touch applied to a guitar is magical (listen to Ron Block of Alison Krause/Union Station)...

Even when I played my "Allman Bros" on my old Les Paul, I finger picked (with fingernails) and a National thumbpick... kept wearing out my fingernails though! NOW, I've found Alaska Piks! wowie! no more torn/worn nails and the same sound/style!

tim
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-10-23 12:57 PM (#202661 - in reply to #202656)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle


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A lot of what Lindsey Buckingham plays, he plays using banjo rolls. Jerry Reed's the same at times. Almost all of Jerry's Breakdown is banjo rolls.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2003-10-23 1:01 PM (#202662 - in reply to #202656)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle


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Well now, perhaps I'm not quite as odd as I first thought..... nah!

tim
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cliff
Posted 2003-10-23 1:15 PM (#202663 - in reply to #202656)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle


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Nah, you're not.
That's pretty much how I fingerpick as well.

When I first decided to learn guitar I was a kid working at ToysRUs. There was a book in the Book Section called "Beginning Folk Guitar" (book was $1.96 - I still have it!). The book taught that rolling style of fingerpicking and I learned that before I had even developed a style of strumming.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2003-10-23 1:29 PM (#202664 - in reply to #202656)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle


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Sounds like "Puff The Magic Dragon" to me! PP&M, CSN&Y Cat Stevens, James Taylor, Joe Walsh, Dicky Betts.... even some Carlos Santana.. all have a degree of the "banjo roll" technique... add that to tasteful/accent strums... sublime!

tim
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Legend-LX-Fan
Posted 2003-10-23 1:37 PM (#202665 - in reply to #202656)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle


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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
I started out on 5-string banjo before I played guitar. I can't tell you how much that helped me with my fingerpicking technique. I remember practicing banjo rolls over and over. I really enjoyed putting that to guitar.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2003-10-23 1:37 PM (#202666 - in reply to #202656)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle


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One more thought....

Wasn't there a posting recently regarding the difference between scales and arpeggios? Aren't arpeggios just "fingerpick rolls" inside the chord structure in various combinations?

Isn't that how we play?

tim
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cliff
Posted 2003-10-23 2:06 PM (#202667 - in reply to #202656)
Subject: Re: Fingerstyle


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Location: NJ
. . . still rock & roll t'me.
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