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Mattf0124
Posted 2005-03-03 3:27 AM (#161124)
Subject: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl


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it's an applause ae48, going to attempt to install and opl24+, kinda think some routing will need to be done, it has no battery box cut out, but I'm thinking I could probably secure that to the preamp box, I'm thinking a low speed dremel cutting tool to widen the preamp slot, maybe the grinding tool would be safer, any advice would be greatly appreiciated, dont want to screw it up.....I'm more fond of it than I thought I'd be

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Beal
Posted 2005-03-03 8:46 AM (#161125 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl



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Location: 6 String Ranch
You'll need a 12 horse Husquavarna chain saw, the one with the small bar and fine tooth chain. Next is a jaws of life tool with the 3" cutter attachment and a 6" disc sander with 14, 60 grit discs. Then a small arc welder rig for securing the attachment ring for the new preamp. Don't forget a roll of masking tape so you won't get any scratches on the rest of the bowl finish.
Good Luck and let us know how the project turns out.
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Mattf0124
Posted 2005-03-03 9:19 AM (#161126 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl


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I have acess to all the above aside from the chain saw, though I beileve the dremel will suffice, I suppose what I really need to know is how easy is it to crack the bowl, thats something I dont really wish to learn the hard way, thanks


M.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-03-03 9:22 AM (#161127 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl



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Shouldn't be too hard to crack it if you're really trying.
Try a mallet.
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MWoody
Posted 2005-03-03 9:22 AM (#161128 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl



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Matt,

Talk to Customer service and see what their process is first. They may even have a template or some do's and don'ts to pass on.

Tip: Be nice to your Dental Hygienist and they might slip you a packet of used but sterilized cutting and grinding bits to use with your Dremel!

W2 - The Husquy is a little overkill, eh? If you have the itch - check out these guys:
Bear in a Box
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Mattf0124
Posted 2005-03-03 9:44 AM (#161129 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl


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I sent an email to customer service a few days ago about the low e not responding when plugged in,it doesnt even register on an electric tuner, I've yet to get a response, a new pickup is coming with the preamp, so I'm really not worried about it,and as an added surprise, I called musicians friend, where I got it, not expecting anything more than to be told I could send it back, wich was the first thing out of the reps mouth, I told him I wanted to keep it,he gave me a fax number, told me to get an estimate to fix it,and if it was reasonable,they'd foot the bill,reasonable being 30 to 50 bucks,higher than that they would split the cost, quite different than my usual bout with any customer service from a large company, oh yeah, back to the topic, how easy does it crack?....years and years ago a friend of mine had one that had a run in with his ex girlfriends boot,if memory serves correctly,the fragments were extremely brittle, I'm trying to avoid cracks, just need to widen the hole a bit
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Beal
Posted 2005-03-03 12:55 PM (#161130 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl



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Try 860-379-7575 and go to service. The old fashion way works better than email sometimes. Tell them you want to use my chain saw I let them borrow.
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Mattf0124
Posted 2005-03-03 2:11 PM (#161131 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl


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thanks, actually, I'm only going to need about an inch in length, I'm going to machine a file of the approrpiate width and that should take care of it neat and simple
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MWoody
Posted 2005-03-03 2:41 PM (#161132 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl



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I worked with a guy that was a Diver in Vietam. He was part of a Team that made the largest munitions explosion ever. They packed their version of C4 into fire hoses and laid it out (stealthily) across the bottom of a key river to ensure sufficient depth for passage.

Something like a 2 mile precision blast.

There's always more than one way to make a hole!
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Mattf0124
Posted 2005-03-03 2:55 PM (#161133 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl


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think I'm going to go with a slightly more subtle approach
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seesquare
Posted 2005-03-04 6:44 PM (#161134 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl


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Relax, Matt, they don't crack that easily. I've installed 3 preamps in the past coupla months- no worries, mate.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2005-03-04 6:56 PM (#161135 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl



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Two words that don't go together.......

Chainsaws and Guitars. Nice tip from Woody about the Dental Hygienist.
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Beal
Posted 2005-03-04 7:08 PM (#161136 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl



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Actually woody's way of making room in the channel is quite insiteful. There must be a way it could be adapted for fishing the inland wasterway. Can C4 be silenced?
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MWoody
Posted 2005-03-04 8:42 PM (#161137 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl



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"Can C4 be silenced?"

After the first blast the next few seem a lot more quiet!

Early in my days as a Tank Cleaner I had opted not to put in ear plugs once when wearing an airfed hood (Pre-OSHA Hazmat Clean-up suits). Got home and tried to play my 1112, shocked and dismayed that it sounded really dull!

Since then I have embraced the use of hearing protection vs. Bravado!

Hopefully I'll get to the point where I can wear earplugs on stage!
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Nils
Posted 2005-03-04 11:31 PM (#161138 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl


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When dynamite goes off underwater it makes a thump & a splash. Not much noise though. C4 is probably similar.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2005-03-05 6:06 AM (#161139 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl



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Hi,

A lot of folks in Tennessee call that

" A good way to fish."
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cliff
Posted 2005-03-05 9:45 AM (#161140 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl


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When I was a kid, we used to take M80's and wrap them real tight with about .125" of vinyl electrical tape. It aided in making 'em waterproof and gave them a little more "mass" to they'd sink faster. Lit 'em and through 'em into a nearby river from a high bridge. Looked really cool at night with the underwater "flash". Like mini depth charges . . .
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gam1954
Posted 2005-03-05 3:38 PM (#161141 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl


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I'm glad none of you "mechanical inclined adjustment enginneers" (M.I.A.E.) suggested using .........THE LAZER.....down here in redneckville we uns jes git out th ole Uncle Buck an whittle a bit......good luck with the retro fit, please re-post results
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TWA
Posted 2005-03-05 3:48 PM (#161142 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl


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Don't forget to use plenty of duct tape...
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Capo Guy
Posted 2005-03-05 3:54 PM (#161143 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl



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Don't Forget to use plenty of Duct Tape.....
I knew sooer or later this would be mentioned.
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Mattf0124
Posted 2005-03-05 8:27 PM (#161144 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl


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I cut out a file the width of the cavity and used that to lengthen it, now I'm just waiting for my parts to come in, used a friend of mines guitar with the same preamp to make the adjustments, and of all the suggestions I've been given..... I am planning on using duct tape, instead of cutting out a cavity for the battery box, I'm planning on securing it to the preamp box, more than likely with a bit of duct tape
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E.Sherman
Posted 2005-03-05 10:08 PM (#161145 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl


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On a different note, how do you like that applause guitar? I never hear much about their quality. Is there a story behind this one?
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Mattf0124
Posted 2005-03-06 3:05 AM (#161146 - in reply to #161124)
Subject: Re: dont panic , I need tips on cutting into a Lyrachord bowl


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Location: chattanooga tn
it's pretty good for the money, the elctronics suck, hence the upgrade,low e doesnt get amplified at all, wont even register on an elctric tuner, the tone control is useless, put it past two and its extremely brittle ,fretwork past the tenth fret is awful, but an easy fix, they're just rough other than it I really dig it, it's got a beautifly figured top, plays extremely nice, and has a very nice even unplugged tone, doesnt get boomy, all the notes ring out crystal clear, for the money I think I got a pretty good deal, it was good for what you pay for right out the box, with a little bit of work it's going to be a great little instrument
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