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White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again

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noah
Posted 2005-01-09 11:56 PM (#166861)
Subject: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again



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now... Solid Body Ovation Breadwinner Electric Guitar; Item number:3775046033

then... Solid Body Ovation Breadwinner Electric Guitar-MINT; Item number:3770467159

:rolleyes:
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Irgendeiner
Posted 2005-01-10 3:43 AM (#166862 - in reply to #166861)
Subject: Re: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again


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Location: south of munich, Germany
looks like it has moved from US to UK...

they Europeans save taxes now ;-)
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2005-01-10 6:14 AM (#166863 - in reply to #166861)
Subject: Re: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again
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yep and look at the wonderful feedback on the new offer.....

GLENN
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jb
Posted 2005-01-10 7:10 AM (#166864 - in reply to #166861)
Subject: Re: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again


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Apologies in advance for this, but I may have missed something being new to these boards.

I'll start by saying, that for style reasons, I would dearly love to get hold of a BW, and they seem to be very rarely seen in the UK. Was there some, erm... "interesting history" to the previous eBay auction?

That feedback score makes me nervous. Very nervous, particularly at spending (starting bid of) GBP300 to a brand new eBayer. That said, is a potential BW worth that risk?

Is my best bet to avoid this like a bad case of the plague, and drop Al a line to see if there's any chance of him getting hold of one?

I do worry...

Cheers, all.

JB
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Steve
Posted 2005-01-10 8:13 AM (#166865 - in reply to #166861)
Subject: Re: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again


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..am i to understand that the original winning bidder was scammed?....just curious..

steve
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Bluebird
Posted 2005-01-10 8:13 AM (#166866 - in reply to #166861)
Subject: Re: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again



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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
It is pretty obvious that the second one is a scam.

Some loser has simply copied the description and one picture and reposted hoping to make a fast buck. And he's not too bright either...to describe the guitar in almost exactly the same way, right down to the serial number. The first seller has over 200 feedbacks so that is the legitimate auction.

Avoid this one? Oh yes.

Wayne
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jb
Posted 2005-01-10 11:19 AM (#166867 - in reply to #166861)
Subject: Re: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again


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Had that feeling.

Shame really. Will do a little saving and see what Al can dig up for me later in the year.

I'll keep this on my watch-list though. Quite interested to see what becomes of it...

JB
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jb
Posted 2005-01-12 11:38 AM (#166868 - in reply to #166861)
Subject: Re: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again


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Hi guys.

Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but people are bidding on this now.

Given what we know/strongly suspect, is there anything that I can tell eBay to help protect someone? Well aware of the motto Caveat Emptor, and the associated "if anyone's daft enough to send upwards of GBP400 to a zero feedback member, then they deserve anything they get" (must be a catchier way of saying that!), but it seems a shame.

Not trying to drag the OFC name into anything, or profit for myself (can't afford this now, due to financial changes since my initial interest above) as I'll use my eBay account to report if I can. I'm just not sure where to start...

If anyone has any ideas, do PM or mail me in case this discussion may land us in hot water.

I'll have a look round eBay to see if there's anything I can spot easily.

Cheers, all.

JB
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xbj
Posted 2005-01-12 12:16 PM (#166869 - in reply to #166861)
Subject: Re: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again


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Location: Las Vegas
Originally posted by jb:
Hi guys.

Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but people are bidding on this now.



Not as many people are bidding on it as you might think... the reason it's a private auction is so he can hide his fake shill-bidding ID's that are driving the price up for possibly one poor fool.

And no, unfortunately eBay won't do anything proactive; they will only kick someone off after they've been able to successfully defraud someone.

But the bright side is, it's likely to get a Uk buyer that will want to pick it up, and then the seller will have to have the goods. Possibly he was just lazy when copying the ad, too lazy to change the serial number.

I'd pass.

Les
:)
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jb
Posted 2005-01-12 12:39 PM (#166870 - in reply to #166861)
Subject: Re: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again


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Thanks for coming back so quickly, Les.

I've found the form, and already reported, so fingers crossed.

Cheers, all. Let's hope we can put the sorry episode to bed.

JB
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Irgendeiner
Posted 2005-03-22 11:57 PM (#166871 - in reply to #166861)
Subject: Re: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again


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and here we go again....

breadwinner on ebay....

same procedure as last year.. (oh no.. it was just 2 months ago)

Toby
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Jérôme
Posted 2005-03-30 10:48 PM (#166872 - in reply to #166861)
Subject: Re: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again



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Again and again and again ....
For sale in France now!!! :mad:
White Breadwinner on Ebay France

I have sent a mail to Ebay France...

Jérôme
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fugot
Posted 2005-03-30 11:34 PM (#166873 - in reply to #166861)
Subject: Re: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again


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way to go Jerome.
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monithor
Posted 2005-03-31 6:29 AM (#166874 - in reply to #166861)
Subject: Re: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again


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hi there,
thanks for that warning. i am actually looking for a white breadwinner and i just saw it this morning on ebay france. but now it seems to be a little strange to me. i think i will not bid now.

regards
oli
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Jérôme
Posted 2005-03-31 12:43 PM (#166875 - in reply to #166861)
Subject: Re: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again



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Oli,

Don't bid on this guitar.
I can't find the good word in my English dictionary but in french the word for this kind of deal is: "Arnaque" or "piège à con"!!!!
You don't have to pay for this french lesson...
It's free ;)

Jérôme
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monithor
Posted 2005-04-01 2:05 PM (#166876 - in reply to #166861)
Subject: Re: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again


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@ jérôme
merci bien, i hope i will find someone to translate those words.

anyway i got an answer to my question i posted to the seller:

Hi ,
I am Cristina from Reus,Spain and I am glad that you are interested for
my guitar(white one).I regretfully decide to sell my guitarcause I must pay
my college taxes.I ship FedEx International Priority, which for this item
would be EUR100.00 not including any local import taxes, customs or duties.
It would arrive within 3 days.You will have 5 days inspect period.For
payment I prefere bank wire transfer from your account into my bank account.
If you are interested for the guitar,the price I will make the transaction
with you is 1000EUR
Thank you,Cristina

doesn't sound very trustworthy. i informed ebay as well.

oli
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Jérôme
Posted 2005-04-01 11:37 PM (#166877 - in reply to #166861)
Subject: Re: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again



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Oli,

The translation in English for "Piège à con" should be "Sucker Trap". I'm sure you will understand this translation!! ;)

There's a White Breadwinner for sale since this morning on Ebay. Starting at 600 US$.

BREADWINNER ON EBAY


It seems to be a very nice one.

Jérôme
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monithor
Posted 2005-04-02 4:31 AM (#166878 - in reply to #166861)
Subject: Re: White Breadwinner ser#E4948 on eBay again


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good morning,

yeah i saw that one last night and added it to myebay. but it's in the states too. the shipping and the customs will cost nearly a fortune. but i will try. i keep you informed.

oli
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