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popcritic
Posted 2005-07-11 11:24 AM (#144687)
Subject: Your picking job has been outsourced


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It was only a matter of time....

http://www.me.gatech.edu/mechatronics_lab/Projects/Fall00/group3/ph...

pc
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cliff
Posted 2005-07-11 11:36 AM (#144688 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced


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Some people just have WAY too much time on their hands .. . .
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-07-11 11:59 AM (#144689 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced


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Unbelievable!! What will they come up with next?..
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WeaserP
Posted 2005-07-11 12:00 PM (#144690 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced


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Sure, I can see for a uke...but a real instrument? NEVER!
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cholloway
Posted 2005-07-11 1:06 PM (#144691 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced


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Leave it to the "Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech"!
But, how good does it sound "unplugged"???
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dleegblue
Posted 2005-07-11 2:19 PM (#144692 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced


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Can it play with feeling?
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cliff
Posted 2005-07-11 2:28 PM (#144693 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced


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I've saved the pictures onto my hard-drive.

Figured I can forward 'em onto my partner the next time he pisses me off . . .
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an4340
Posted 2005-07-11 2:55 PM (#144694 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced


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Make it Daisy, Daisy from 2001, that would be cool. "Good evening Dave, everything's running smoothly" Gets a nice harpsichord effect.
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Beal
Posted 2005-07-11 3:36 PM (#144695 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced



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I wonder if the machine prefers Elixers or the uncoated strings?
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Designzilla
Posted 2005-07-11 6:09 PM (#144696 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced


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That is one crazy plucker...
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-11 6:17 PM (#144697 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced



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And people think guitar pickers are so simple...
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2005-07-11 7:22 PM (#144698 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced


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Looks like an engineering senior project to me!!! Been there, done that....well, 29 years ago.....

The software to do this must have a challenge....gobs of timing loops and calibration to coordinate the neck "fingers" and the string pluckers, and to play a song at just the right rate to sound recognizable. Notice that it HAS to play first position chords...nothing "up the neck" allowed!

Notice the make and model of guitar were not even mentioned....to the engineers, it was totally irrelevant to the issue.....

Roger
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-11 7:57 PM (#144699 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced



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Originally posted by Old Applause Owner:
Notice that it HAS to play first position chords...nothing "up the neck" allowed!
Moody - anyone been studying your left hand technique lately?
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-11 8:00 PM (#144700 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced



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I bet they can drive it off of MIDI - either ignore notes out of it's range or play them in substitute octaves...
Might be kind of handy. And no backtalk. "Just shut up and play!"
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2005-07-11 9:22 PM (#144701 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced


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I'd like to hear it play....I'll bet it sounds....need I say it (smiling)?????....MECHANICAL.....

Roger
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elginacres
Posted 2005-07-11 9:29 PM (#144702 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced


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That's hilarious - my question is how many years and how much money did it take for it to be able to place GCD. Wonder if it does hammer-ons and harmonics
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Capo Guy
Posted 2005-07-12 7:07 AM (#144703 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced



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Looks like a government project to me. :D

Some people have WAY to much time on their hands. :)
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cliff
Posted 2005-07-12 8:26 AM (#144704 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced


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". . Looks like a government project to me . . "

Our HomelandSecurity "PorkBarrel" Money at Work.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2005-07-12 11:59 AM (#144705 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced


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I would be utterly amazed if it could do a hammer-on or a pull-off under computer control and sound acceptable. I do this type of thing (computer control systems) for a living....the amount of control to do that would be STUPENDOUS. Far more than college students would generally be capable of(time and resources limited).

Roger
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ChatMan
Posted 2005-07-12 12:38 PM (#144706 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced


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Hammer-on, no big deal simply a matter of timing in the sequencing list. Would depend on the design of the actuators used to finger the fret board. Pull-offs are more of a technique problem. Most players do a pseudo pluck as they pull off to keep a fair amount of string vibration going on. That might be a more difficult effect to create. Depending on the latency (the time between telling and actuator to press/release a string and the actual occurence) and the consistency of the latency, you might be able to simulate a pull off by doing a second pluck withthe string partially released. But as OAO states, most college students I've run across will not have the time or the interest to approach these problems. The average student, having achieved what you see on that web site would just collect their A and move on. It is a pretty neat implementation, nicely executed.

Just looked at the fingering section a little closer and they used spring returns on the actuators. That kind of precludes any kind of pull-off capability, other than some kind of trickery with string plucks timed to coincide with partially retracted fingers. If you look closely you'll see that the plucking mechanism is "push/pull" in that there is a solenoid to drive the actuator in both directions.

Other limitations of this system are an inability to add coloring techniqiues like bends, slides and various pick attacks. The lack of these are what will give this device its 'harpsichord' like quality. but I'm thinking it could execute some totally bizarre midi files. And could do some inhuman things since it doesn't have the finger count limitation most of us are saddled with.
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Watchme22
Posted 2005-07-13 2:08 PM (#144707 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced


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Looks like they took an extremly long run for a short slide...
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-07-13 2:47 PM (#144708 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced


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and it can't do that Angus Young dance either....Boring!!!

At least put some long hair and a tatoo on it.
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Bailey
Posted 2005-07-14 1:56 AM (#144709 - in reply to #144687)
Subject: Re: Your picking job has been outsourced


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Damn thing looks a lot like a DEC PDP-8 8K memory computer I had in the lab at General Atomics in the 1970s, it had flashing lights that signified the contents of it's 12 bit memory locations, a wire and washer memory bank, and it wasted 100 times more time than it saved. It could easily have played "chopsticks" if we had contracted with a DEC machine language programmer and it wouldn't have cost more than $8 million, and would have failed half way through the song so DEC would get another $8 million to trouble shoot it and inform us we needed a PDP 10 to do that job.

Bailey
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