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Steve
Posted 2007-01-24 12:21 PM (#119167)
Subject: Angelstep Elite


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There's a nice '92 Angelstep Walnut Elite 12-string on the 'bay. Anyone ever have one of these? I'm assuming it's a mid/shallow bowl. Be interesting to hear a comparison with the 1758.
Steve
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45flint
Posted 2007-01-24 12:56 PM (#119168 - in reply to #119167)
Subject: Re: Angelstep Elite


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I am assuming that these are panelmasters?
Steve
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-01-24 1:30 PM (#119169 - in reply to #119167)
Subject: Re: Angelstep Elite


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The link for those interested.
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Steve
Posted 2007-01-24 2:43 PM (#119170 - in reply to #119167)
Subject: Re: Angelstep Elite


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That was my next question whether it was sold or veneer/laminate. A no-brainer I guess because of the stress assocated with a 12-string application. But I don't remember hearing of a solid walnut top for 6 strings either. Probably not considered a good top/tone-wood?..
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lanaki
Posted 2007-01-24 4:14 PM (#119171 - in reply to #119167)
Subject: Re: Angelstep Elite


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the seller sold the matching 6 string last week.
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Steve
Posted 2007-01-25 9:23 AM (#119172 - in reply to #119167)
Subject: Re: Angelstep Elite


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Got an email from the seller, just remembered this 12-string is a super-shallow. But if the price stays around $500 or so then it's a good value.
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2007-01-25 4:19 PM (#119173 - in reply to #119167)
Subject: Re: Angelstep Elite



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I don't think it makes much difference if the primary application is plugging it in. Given what #1866 Legends tend to bring, $511 (the current bid) is a great deal on this.
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Beal
Posted 2007-01-25 4:23 PM (#119174 - in reply to #119167)
Subject: Re: Angelstep Elite



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panelmaster.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-01-25 4:24 PM (#119175 - in reply to #119167)
Subject: Re: Angelstep Elite


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pleading ignorance, someone please explain "panelmaster" to me. mahalo!
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lanaki
Posted 2007-01-25 4:26 PM (#119176 - in reply to #119167)
Subject: Re: Angelstep Elite


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Originally posted by Paul Blanchard:
$511 (the current bid) is a great deal on this.
yeah, but the reserve has not been met yet...
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Steve
Posted 2007-01-25 4:52 PM (#119177 - in reply to #119167)
Subject: Re: Angelstep Elite


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Panelmaster:
Something other than a solid top; Veneer or laminated wood; layered...
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Steve
Posted 2007-01-25 4:56 PM (#119178 - in reply to #119167)
Subject: Re: Angelstep Elite


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Apparently it's rather difficult, cost-prohibitive, or otherwise impossible to make a solid guitar top from certain woods. So, the woods that are used as veneers are done for the visual asthetics, not the acoustic qualities.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-01-25 11:26 PM (#119179 - in reply to #119167)
Subject: Re: Angelstep Elite


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thanks steve. just as i suspected but i had not heard the term before.
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-01-26 12:29 AM (#119180 - in reply to #119167)
Subject: Re: Angelstep Elite


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the celb's,matrix's and a few other lower end ovations used the panelmaster tops...sorta like plywood...other companys use them for wood body resonators because the body and top dosnt make the sound..it just hold the cone and soundwell...jason
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Beal
Posted 2007-01-26 8:43 AM (#119181 - in reply to #119167)
Subject: Re: Angelstep Elite



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Don't let it take on too negative a spin. All Adamas guitars are panelmasters by this definition so keep that in mind. Just that the real rare and exotic woods aren't strong enough to abe a solid top. Many wouldn't sound good anyway. The 3 ply top has a real good sound and they are all plugable anyway. Going toe to toe with a prewar D-18 or 28 they will loose, but that wasn't the intension of these anyway.
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Steve
Posted 2007-01-26 9:30 AM (#119182 - in reply to #119167)
Subject: Re: Angelstep Elite


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w2,
How might the 'voice rating' of the pre-war Martins compare with the early Adamas'?
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Beal
Posted 2007-01-26 12:01 PM (#119183 - in reply to #119167)
Subject: Re: Angelstep Elite



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The slotheads? Ovations are always more balanced. Marting have the big boom for bass and good highs. They are quite different animals
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