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Location: Montreal, Canada | After learning mostly by ear and tabs, i put the guitar away for about 15 years. When my daughter started to play some music in school, she wanted me to show her my old guitar and play some songs with her, but i couldn't read even her basic music parts.
She wanted to learn to play guitar, so i enrolled us both in a class 3 years ago. She has since left the class (she's 10 and wanted to try something else) but i have kept on going.
So far i can read most music basic parts and i have no problems with tabs. One of the hardest things has always been to convert back and forth the notation from french to english as i'm a french-canadian from CDEFGHAB to DoReMiFaSolLaSi.
Take a look at the Alfred method if you wanna learn how to read standard music. I found it very easy to follow with lots of practice material. It's probably the best one out there.
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Location: big island | "cdefgHab"? is there an "H" chord i don't know about? |
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Location: Montreal, Canada | It's the special chord only us frenchmen know about.... :) Damn typos !!
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Location: big island | when i look at written music, all i see is a bunch of black and white boys jumping over a fence. |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | "cdefgHab"? is there an "H" chord i don't know about? Obviously as a French-Canadian, he's got hockey on the mind with the playoffs approaching - Les Habitants - go Rangers! |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | I have a basic understanding of reading music notation. As someone said earlier, it helps during worship services when we learn new songs every week and the piano-playing leader doesn't always have chords for me. I try and figure out the chords from the notes and the key. It definitely helps with the timing as well - especially when the timing changes several times in the middle of the song. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by Mauray1:
Take a look at the Alfred method if you wanna learn how to read standard music. I myself am a graduate of the Alfred E. Newman skool us improvizashun.
Yves; have you voted yet?
lanaki said:
"cdefgHab"? is there an "H" chord i don't know about? Actually it the 'habitant' chord. No one uses it, because it grates on almost everyone. Invented by Gilles Vigneault one night at a gig in Sherbrook Ontario when an Anglo drunk kept demanding a rendition of Les Bicyclette de Belsize |
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Location: Montreal, Canada | Good one fillhixx !! I'm actually on my way out of the office to go vote....but in my case, i'll be fair and vote for everyone !!!
Seriously though, it's been a very tight three way race here in the past month and we're looking at our first possible minority goverment in over a century !! Sounds like fun !!!
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | I can--I majored in clarinet in college, and took theory, counterpoint, etc. It has carried over into my limited ability to play keyboard, and I can figure chord progressions and vocal parts out fairly quickly; it's helped my bass playing a whole lot, but not so much my guitar playing, especially in the area of technique. Play a classical piece? Not. Lead guitar? Not. I don't think my guitar playing is on a level with the knowledge I struggled to acquire all those years ago now, but I find that I really appreciate pieces that are more than a half a dozen or so chords.
Karen and the crew
Gertrude (1111-4), Jewel (CE868LX-4), Blanca (Viper natural), Jazzey (Maple Tornado), Gilda (Guild), Sugar (Steinberger Spirit 5-string bass), Plink (Galiano mandolin), Twang (Vega 5-string banjo) and Shriek (Fiddle of uncertain antecedents) |
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| I studied music education in college. I still have one of my text books 'Piston's Harmony'. I score piano occasionally. But, orchestration is quite a subjective thing. Ask Rachmaninoff.. :) |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Hmm...Guitar, Piano,Flute,Clarinet have been mentioned,all are instruments that are Pre-tuned..
otherwise ,many comments have been made,yet Mr.O and private Eye Nailed it Right on the Dot..There`s so much to Learn,so much to Know,Take U`re pick and Do U`re thing,Good Luck ;)
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I learned something from this thread. I never knew that a person who played the flute was a "flautist". I always thought that was a person who tooted from the other end. Even though I was a clarinetist, I was always the "guy with the clarinet". All the other clarinetists were "girls with clarinets." Never heard of flautists and would have thought it had to do with flatulence. This forum is so educational. I'm still not going to call my neice a flautist, though. She might punch me. |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | I took 3 three years of piano lessons when I was a youngster, and I can read for it but not like I used to. It would probably take me days to get a song down now.
My mom got me started playing a few chords on her old Harmony arch top when I was about 8. Spent the next 6 years sporadically picking up the guitar. When I was 14 I got to spend some time with an uncle who plays and he would have me play rythm to drive him in songs he was trying to learn.
That got me inspired and I purchased a nice Kasuga rosewood dreadnaught and some books with the chords above the lyrics.
Literally, every night, I would go to my room and practice (partly to get out of doing dishes) strumming and singing. I got just good enough to allow me to sing what I wanted and have stagnated ever since. As long as I can get the melody stuck in my mind and can pretty much figure the chord changes.
I can get around the top 3 frets pretty good and dip up to the 5th occassionally, but am now struggling to better my playing.
Bass I learned on stage, but that's a whole other story.
I know people who can sight read a piece for the first time and play it note for note but they have to play it many times before you can hear the expression in the music. You can't feel it 'til they do. (Stop it )
Both camps have there + and -, and if you can feel the groove, it really doesn't matter which one you belong to as long as you're enjoying doing it.
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Location: Indiana | If I have enough time I can figure out what the notes are. But I cannot sight read. Been playing by ear for 43 years and have rarely regretted it.
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | "playing by ear for 43 years and have rarely regretted it"
How`s the Ear holding up :confused: ;)
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Cheap Trick have the perfect song for this occasion.
(And when don't they?....)
Everything Works If You Let It |
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Location: North Cal. mountains | Rocket Science. That's how I would describe tuning a steel guitar. But, my brother did it and plays with the finest of musicians. He rarely got one of his own songs on the radio or even the flipside.
He makes it obvious that it is about the front.
Take it and fake it and you could make it. Shy will be passed by.
Jam, learn, get your ass kicked and then embraced by the old guys.
It's worth every moment of hurt to get one day when they say, "This kid is really good".
Strive for that.
They will let you know how much you don't know, but if you are a very good writer, they will help you.
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Location: North Cal. mountains | By the way, my brother can't read tab. He made it, but not for him.
A songwriter needs to make something bigger.
You need to be thicker-skinned.
Having a song ignored is like having a child seen as inadequate.
Be tough. That song's a part of you, but you might hear, "You're the reason our kids are ugly".
Get over it and get tough and get out there and get some experience. Your ol' guys will definately kick your ass in a meanish-loving way and will tell you EXACTLY what you need to know if you have the balls to ask. If you don't have the balls to ask, they keep laughing at you.
Step up, sweetheart. It's not as simple as sheet music or not. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | "Step up, sweetheart. It's not as simple as sheet music or not "
Ain`t that the Truth !!
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Location: Indiana | Originally posted by Enfant Terrible aka V-Elite:
"playing by ear for 43 years and have rarely regretted it"
How`s the Ear holding up :confused: ;)
Vic :cool: Huh? |
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Location: Yucaipa, California | yup, read music... still have trouble with reading tab though... |
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Can You Read Music Or Not ?
