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ozwatto
Posted 2007-04-15 9:36 AM (#105396)
Subject: scale length


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OK..OK...you're all probably tiring of my dumb questions but here's another one. Again, it's something I should know.......but I don't.

Exactly what is scale length. The Ovation website tells me my 1860 has a scale length: 25 1/4" and scale:???

What's the difference between scale length and scale and why aren't there any specifications for my guitar re scale.

Also, I have a very limited knowledge of guitar bracing. My guitar has Ovation bracing according to the website. Can anyone enlighten me?
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-04-15 10:01 AM (#105397 - in reply to #105396)
Subject: Re: scale length


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Location: Scotland
Scale length is the distance from the nut to the bridge saddle. Different scale lengths produce different string tensions for the same string gauge and pitch, with longer scales having increased tension and a tighter feel. Acoustic guitar scale lengths for standard tuning can vary from 24.75 to over 26 inches.

Bracing is a huge topic. Try a search on some luthier websites. Ovation has used a ton of bracing paterns over the years, some good, some not so good. The original Ovation pattern was a modified Martin-style X-brace. The current LX pattern is an X-brace also.
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Yak
Posted 2007-04-15 4:02 PM (#105398 - in reply to #105396)
Subject: Re: scale length


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Location: Reno, NV
"A guitar’s scale length is calculated by measuring the distance from the front edge of the nut, where it butts against the end of the fingerboard, to the center of the 12th (octave) fret, then doubling that measurement.

If your 1930's Gibson L-OO, for example, measures 12-3/8" at the 12th fret, then your guitar’s scale length is twice that — a 24-3/4" scale. For good intonation, the guitar’s saddle will be placed so a little extra string length is added. This extra length is called “compensation,” and it means the actual string length is longer than its 24-3/4” scale measurement. At the center of the saddle it will be closer to 24-7/8". Compensation varies for different strings, and that’s why your saddle is placed at an angle. "
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45flint
Posted 2007-04-16 7:41 AM (#105399 - in reply to #105396)
Subject: Re: scale length


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Location: Wooster, Ohio
I have a guitar that the manufacturer has changed the current scale length. They went from a scale length on the old model of 25.4 to the new model having it at 25.5.

What could possibly be the reason for such a small change?
Steve
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-04-16 8:05 AM (#105400 - in reply to #105396)
Subject: Re: scale length



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Location: south east Michigan
So they can say... New & Improved??? Bigger & Better??? Now more guitar for the money?? All our other guitars were off and we finally got it right???
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MWoody
Posted 2007-04-16 11:53 AM (#105401 - in reply to #105396)
Subject: Re: scale length



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It was more likely a tooling issue with a manufacturer or a math conversion issue with the metric/linear/US:UK data.

Did you realize that statistically 50% of us are below average?
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ozwatto
Posted 2007-04-16 5:20 PM (#105402 - in reply to #105396)
Subject: Re: scale length


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Originally posted by MWoody:
It was more likely a tooling issue with a manufacturer or a math conversion issue with the metric/linear/US:UK data.

Did you realize that statistically 50% of us are below average?
I only half believe that.
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-04-16 5:22 PM (#105403 - in reply to #105396)
Subject: Re: scale length


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im sure to be far under the 50% mark.....jason
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2007-04-16 5:35 PM (#105404 - in reply to #105396)
Subject: Re: scale length


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Location: Marlton, NJ
This poses a problem for me as I am exactly average... if 50% are below average and 50% are above average then I must not exist... :confused:
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Beal
Posted 2007-04-16 7:31 PM (#105405 - in reply to #105396)
Subject: Re: scale length



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It's all in the rounding.
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2007-04-16 10:40 PM (#105406 - in reply to #105396)
Subject: Re: scale length


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It's all in the rounding.
Well that explains a few things...
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-04-16 11:27 PM (#105407 - in reply to #105396)
Subject: Re: scale length


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Location: Boise, Idaho
We're all above average. It's those other guys that are below.
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