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LBJ
Posted 2007-07-13 5:18 PM (#90561 - in reply to #90536)
Subject: Re: Good News!!!! but... OT


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Posts: 665

Location: Tychy, Poland
Originally posted by schroeder:
Correct. But there's no danger you won't get treated.
So LBJ would you rather pay low taxes and watch your kids die?

13 million Americans without any form of health insurance is not exactly a wonderful situation.
I'm not trying to make this political, just moral.
Yes but in US you're not forced to pay for health insurance. If you don't want it, or you can't afford it - you don't get it.
i prefer american tax system over european, because i hate socialism and overregulation, which has place in EU.
I know that if i had a cancer, or i needed a surgery, i wouldn't be saved because in Poland health care doesn't warrant you anything, and i would die anyway. In home, in hospital...who cares. I've had my mother in hospital last year. It was awful. People who in other countries would be operated and get treated well were laying on the bed and moaning, because there wasn't enough morphine in hospital to give them. They were dying one after another and in the room where my mother laid there was 7 deaths (!) in 12 days.
I bet that if i paid 15% of my income in US for health care i'd get much more than in poland.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2007-07-13 5:49 PM (#90562 - in reply to #90536)
Subject: Re: Good News!!!! but... OT



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Posts: 8307

Location: Tennessee
Anyone who needs medical care in America gets it ... period. Even if you don't have insurance. Even if you are in the country illegally. There is a safety net built in, same as our welfare system. One can find flaws in every system and then there are people who choose not to participate. Every doctor I know allocates pro bono work to those who need it, people like Char. And then there are the faith-based organizations (but let's not go there).

As far as other systems, I have two stories:

One: My Dutch step-mother needed knee replacement surgery. She waited over three years ... it got to the point she could not walk so the Dutch medical system gave her a wheelchair. My father just gave up and brought her to the US and inside of a week she had new knees, and was biking and hiking within 6 weeks. Two years after her surgery, she got a call from the Dutch health system saying they wanted to see her and they could schedule her procedure for the following year if their examination deemed it necessary.

Two: My best friend is a health systems expert, for two years he has been living in Slough and serving as a lead database designer for the rewrite of the British health system. He was a very vocal supporter of a universal health care system in the US. He now has done a 180 and is vehemently against a state health care system.

The whole "uninsured" is blown way out of proportion by people with political agendas (but let's not go there). It is undisputed that America has the finest health care system in the world. It may not be perfect, but it is way ahead of anything else.
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-07-13 6:11 PM (#90563 - in reply to #90536)
Subject: Re: Good News!!!! but... OT



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Posts: 4832

Location: Campbell River, British Columbia
Of course, from Canada we get the best of both worlds!

Don't like the long wait for new knees?
Take a bus to Blaine!

I will say, here..all emergency work is handled in a reasonable manner. (depending how far you are from where the emergency service is available....but it's a big country.)

However, because all doctors are are either 100% in or out of the system (though many are playing around the edges of the rules) there is virtually no pro bono work. The government paperwork makes it prohibitive to donate your time.
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