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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-09-13 7:47 PM (#82653 - in reply to #82603)
Subject: Re: Struggling with the F chord



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Dave is right. Doesn't matter how you get the notes as long as you get them. I use my thumb a lot for an F chord. I also use it to get a B7.
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Akami
Posted 2007-09-14 3:34 PM (#82654 - in reply to #82603)
Subject: Re: Struggling with the F chord


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If the strings slots are high then an F chord will be especially difficult.

Have the string height checked.
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Steve
Posted 2007-09-14 4:01 PM (#82655 - in reply to #82603)
Subject: Re: Struggling with the F chord


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I agree with Akami, the only time I had problems with the F chord was on guitars with bad action..it's a simple thing to straighten the neck and notch out the E and B nut slots just a little...
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-09-15 1:23 AM (#82656 - in reply to #82603)
Subject: Re: Struggling with the F chord


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Richard Thompson uses his thumb a lot on the low E string, so it must be alright.
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iglupickin
Posted 2007-09-15 8:34 AM (#82657 - in reply to #82603)
Subject: Re: Struggling with the F chord


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An F chord can be a challenge to play clean without buzzing or having to develop a muscular grip to clamp that part of the neck. I find my Ovation is much easier for barring than my Guild jumbo acoustic. Occassionally when faced with a barred F chord in a tune, playing it "c" style and using the thumb for last note gets me by. Yes its not condoned by the official Academy of playing techniques but sometimes you got to use what you got to get er done!
Best regards
iglupickin (Gary)
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tpa
Posted 2007-09-15 12:04 PM (#82658 - in reply to #82603)
Subject: Re: Struggling with the F chord


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For barré chords the playing position is important. The neck of the guitar should be not too far from parallel with your shoulder line as seen from the top. To most players this means bring the left hand backwards. This will promote a better angle of attack for the index finger in the barré position.
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Posted 2007-09-15 2:17 PM (#82659 - in reply to #82603)
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-09-15 2:45 PM (#82660 - in reply to #82603)
Subject: Re: Struggling with the F chord



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I could re-hash a previous thread, but...
I am still dealing with Barre chords, and probably always will. Tried the "Gripmaster" thing, we've talked about tennis balls...
There probably is not an exercise tool that really duplicates the the guitar neck... Except the Guitar Neck.
As much as I hate to admit it, the only thing that will help is... Dare I say it... Practice!

Similar thing... I complained about the Bm chord, which I use more frequently than the Bar F, and I have found that if I don't really Think about it, I do it better. (but that may not apply in this case)
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Akami
Posted 2007-09-17 11:33 PM (#82661 - in reply to #82603)
Subject: Re: Struggling with the F chord


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Here's a quick test to tell if the problem is in the hands or high string slots.

Play a barred G or A, then F.

If they're all equally difficult then it's either an action problem all the way up the neck or a technique problem and can be cured with Old Man Arthur's suggestion... Practice!

But if G and A are easy and F difficult, the string slots are too high... and practice will still help!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-09-18 2:36 AM (#82662 - in reply to #82603)
Subject: Re: Struggling with the F chord



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Bm..Bm....A..A...F#m.F#m..Bm...
Find The Cost of Free-ee-Dom

D....D...A...A...Bm...
Bur-reed in the Ground

Bm..Bm....A....A...F#m..F#m..Bm...
Mo-ther Earth will swal-low you

D....D...A...A...Bm...
Lay your Bo-dee Down

Just play that a dozen times a day, or until your neighbors beg you to stop. :p
Practice, Practice, Practice...
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BruDeV
Posted 2007-09-18 4:58 PM (#82663 - in reply to #82603)
Subject: Re: Struggling with the F chord


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Technically all you really need to play is
xx---x
----2-
---3--
--4---

Root + third + fifth.
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