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| I want to decide this week between the Ovation Patriot (no electronics) or the 1982 Collector's Series Models (Adamas electronics) VS Glen Campbell Model 1127-4. They are in nearly the same condition and price. Which would you choose and why? I hear the Patriot sounds great but I don't think it is a AAA top of the 1982. I am not really a collector of any guitars but I am a 40 year experienced player and I want a guitar that I keep. I had long ago the Ovation Balladeer and I've got to say I miss these types of guitars so I want to get a really good one (your recommendation doesn't have to be these but I am not found of the multi holes). Your input is appreciated, which would you get?
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Location: SoCal | http://ovationtribute.com/Ovation%20Promo/Patriot_1776_Ovation_Ad.h... May be all you'll find on the Patriot. It was essentially an A braced Legend that had a cool top on it. The 82 C is the same but it has the 2 knobber electronics of the day. 1982 was a year or two before the advent of the OP24 and was considered the best that Ovation had at the time.
The GC 1127 is either a mid or artist bowl guitar. It won't have the fuller sound of the other two deep bowl guitars. |
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| Thank you, this helps clarify some things. I guess another way I could have said this is "what is your favorite vintage single hole, big bowl Ovation", but I'm not sure yet of a big sound difference in them. |
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Location: Katmandu | If you've got the opportunity, go and play each of them to see for yourself what you like best. |
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Location: Canada | There are about 6 years between the Patriot and Collectors, and it looks like the 82 Collectors has no TRC so I assume its neck has a K-bar so might be a bit heavier, also the old eletronics will add some weight. The Patriot pictures I looked at suggest a classic 70s Ovation with an older neck construction. If you play mainly acoustic, the Patriot might be more fun, though I think it's important to get the bicentennial paperwork included and make sure that the graphics are still in good shape. A new 1127 was in a lower price class than the two special models, but would be more similar to the Patriot.
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Location: Utah | The A-braced Patriot is hands down the best sounding wood topped Ovation I've ever heard. If the '82 is also A-braced then I would expect it to sound similar. Every instrument is slightly different, so I would play them to see which you like best. I would want to be assured the neck angle is still good and the fret condition is good. No cracks, no loose braces, etc.
If I had to get rid of all but 1 Ovation/Adamas in my stable, the Patriot could well be the one I keep. |
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| Thanks for these helpful comments. I admit the technical learning and history of these guitars wasn't something I was planning to get into but in a way there is not choice for linking at these and other vintage instruments. In my area of SW Florida none of these guitars are nearby for me to try. I am going on the description and pics of Reverb and Ebay mostly but GuitarCenter.com used can have some good ones too. Of course I far prefer to buy if there is even a short money back guarantee time to check the guitar.
Of the very few videos on Youtube on the Patriot done with a simple, poor quality camera the guitar still shines through it all in a way that I would describe as "sparkling. shimmering." |
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Location: moline,illinois | If your looking for vintage go for the "Patriot",if you want the best traditional center sound hole Ovation look at the Custom Legend,the 1619 has more basic electronics,the 1719 is newer(relatively).
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Location: SoCal | You might even want to consider something like this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/OVATION-1767-LEGEND-USA-GUITAR/223202542634...
It's a deep bowl Legend, probably built in the late 1980's. Like the others you are considering, it's A braced and 30 years (about) old. Should sound wonderful. And if you do plug it in, the OP24 is top notch.
Just something to consider. And, it's in Florida ........ |
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Location: Muenster/Germany | That is a hard decision. The older Patriot guitar with the old neck might be the better acoustic guitar. I love these pre-k-bar Ovations. They are playable with incredible low action and are very good fingerstyle guitars, I´m thinking about adding one of them to my collection for quite a time, for a collector in the U.S. is IMHO a must-have, here in Germany an old custom legend will do...
I once had a 82collector...it was a very heavyweight guitar. But it was sooo nice to play and had a great sound, and the blue colour and the overall quality of this guitar is bewitching, it looks and feels much better than the pictures say. And I find that the 2-knobber pu has has you need, every guitar amp has enough eq´s if needed. Both guitars are for me milestones of Ovation history.
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Location: Gardnerville, NV | I had Patriot #541/1776 and I traded it and an Artist 1121 for an Ovation Elite. I don't have the Elite anymore but I do wish I still had my Patriot and to a lesser extent my shallow bowl Artist.
If you can find a Patriot, go for it. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | <p>I am the original owner of a 1981 or 1982 Legend Ltd, essentially a Patriot without the decal. Love the sound, but can’t tell you how many times the headstock has dropped straight down and banged into something because I let go of the neck to fiddle with something. The necks are heavy and I have difficulty keeping it balanced when using a shoulder strap. Just a passing comment on handling. Don’t let go if you’re using a strap. Maybe a strip of velcro on the underside of the strap would help?</p> |
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Location: Always beautiful canyon country of Utah | Poor headstock!! Never fiddle if you can avoid it!! |
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Location: SoCal | What kind of strap (material)? I use leather straps and have never had that problem with my 1537, 87C, and Adamas I 12. All have the KBar neck. Come to think of it, I've just never had that problem....
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| I think this thread is going to be very useful for people looking for a quality vintage Ovation, I know it was helpful to me. I decided to a Ovation 1779 Custom Legend Natural Acoustic Electric Guitar. I bought it on GuitarCenter.com for $750.00. It is described as in Great Condition with the original case. This seemed the best buy I could get, plus 36 Months Same as Cash helps. A few Patriots out there offered on Reverb with no Return Policy, no original paperwork and in one case the guitar's inner sticker/label was mostly torn off. I can't imagine why anyone would do that. The seller is not the original owner, past person I was told has pasted away. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | moody, p.i. - 2018-10-30 11:47 PM What kind of strap (material)? I use leather straps and have never had that problem with my 1537, 87C, and Adamas I 12. All have the KBar neck. Come to think of it, I've just never had that problem.... Strap material doesn’t seem to matter. It still slips. I use all leather straps of varying widths and thickness, and a few old Ace straps. Fortunately, I only gig with the 1187 SSB which never slips, so it is no longer an issue. Maybe it’s my body type. |
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Location: SoCal | Don't know. Everybody has their own experiences...... |
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Location: moline,illinois | glennmagi - 2018-10-31 6:54 AM
I think this thread is going to be very useful for people looking for a quality vintage Ovation, I know it was helpful to me. I decided to a Ovation 1779 Custom Legend Natural Acoustic Electric Guitar. I bought it on GuitarCenter.com for $750.00. It is described as in Great Condition with the original case. This seemed the best buy I could get, plus 36 Months Same as Cash helps. A few Patriots out there offered on Reverb with no Return Policy, no original paperwork and in one case the guitar's inner sticker/label was mostly torn off. I can't imagine why anyone would do that. The seller is not the original owner, past person I was told has pasted away.
Congrats Custom Legends are sweet,make sure you check the guitar out real good when you get it guitarcenter has sent me a few with undisclosed issues 1 I returned the others were rare so I kept and fixed them
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1982 Collectors Series VS Patriot Limited VS Glen Campbell Model 1127-4
