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Freigeist
Posted 2015-11-29 2:04 PM (#518937)
Subject: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)



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Hi all,

playing a Ovation Custom Legend model 1869 from 1995, I'm looking also for a classic model. To be honest, I do not have any knowledge what models have been built through the years. I'm searching for a USA built. Something like my Legend, but only as a classic version.
Can you please give me some hints which models I have to look for?
I found already this model numbers:
1116/1616, 1613, 1763, 1773, 6773.
Think this list is not complete and maybe a list is already existing here at the forum? (didn't found one with the search here).

Thanks a lot in advance for helping.
Best rgds from Germany
Ralf
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BanjoJ
Posted 2015-11-29 3:37 PM (#518938 - in reply to #518937)
Subject: RE: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)



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Are you looking for nylon string guitars with a 26 3/16" scale length?

If a 25 1/4" scale length is also of interest, there are also the Country Artist models, such as the 2773LX - Country Artist LX. I have one.

http://www.ovationguitars.com/guitars/archive/view/2773lx-folklore-...
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DanSavage
Posted 2015-11-29 4:08 PM (#518939 - in reply to #518937)
Subject: Re: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)



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Ovation makes four basic nylon string guitars --12 frets to the body and 14 frets to the body.

The 12-frets are more 'classical', i.e.: 2" nut width. Models include 1116, 1613, 1713, 1763, etc. These models feature 25-1/4" scale. (Classic)

As Paul points out, the 12-frets also have models with 26-3/16" scale length. These include the 1773LX, 2073LX. (Classic)

The 14-frets are semi-classical, i.e.: 1-7/8" nut width. Models include 1124, 1624, 6773LX, etc. (Country Artist)

There's also a 14-fret semi-classical, i.e.: 1-3/4" nut width. Models include 6774LX Folklore/Country Artist, N724. (Country Artist)

Pretty much take your pic depending on what brace pattern you want.

Edited by DanSavage 2015-11-29 4:09 PM
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Damon67
Posted 2015-11-29 6:02 PM (#518940 - in reply to #518939)
Subject: Re: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)



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DanSavage - 2015-11-29 2:08 PM The 14-frets are semi-classical, i.e.: 1-7/8" nut width. Models include 1124, 1624, 6773LX, etc. (Country Artist)
 

The 6773LX is 1 3/4"

DanSavage - 2015-11-29 2:08 PMThere's also a 14-fret semi-classical, i.e.: 1-3/4" nut width. Models include 6774LX Folklore/Country Artist, N724. (Country Artist) Pretty much take your pic depending on what brace pattern you want.
 

all the models with the '4' at the end are steel string Folklores. For  the Country Artist 1 3/4" nylon strings there's the 6773LX and the 2773LX

 



Edited by Damon67 2015-11-29 6:09 PM
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DanSavage
Posted 2015-11-29 8:21 PM (#518941 - in reply to #518937)
Subject: RE: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)



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6773LX Folklore/Country Artist

My 1624 Country Classic is a nylon string 14-fret guitar with a 1-7/8" neck.

1124 Country Artist
1624 Country Classic



Edited by DanSavage 2015-11-29 8:24 PM
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2015-11-29 10:13 PM (#518945 - in reply to #518937)
Subject: Re: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)


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EA-63 I'm just say'n.. it's my favorite nylon string. Wish I still had one... how many times have we said that?
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Damon67
Posted 2015-11-29 11:58 PM (#518947 - in reply to #518941)
Subject: RE: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)



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DanSavage - 2015-11-29 6:21 PM

6773LX Folklore/Country Artist

My 1624 Country Classic is a nylon string 14-fret guitar with a 1-7/8" neck.

1124 Country Artist
1624 Country Classic

 

I stand corrected on the 1124/1624

Not sure what the first link is. I have a 6773LX and it's a 1 3/4 nylon.

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DanSavage
Posted 2015-11-30 8:58 AM (#518958 - in reply to #518937)
Subject: RE: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)



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My first link was messed up.

Weird. Ovation Guitars archive shows these two pages below. It looks to me like they're duplicates.

6773LX

6773LX Folklore/Country Artist

Since you've got one of these guitars and have probably measured the nut, I'll go with what you say that it's 1-3/4" wide.



Edited by DanSavage 2015-11-30 9:00 AM
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Cavalier
Posted 2015-11-30 11:33 AM (#518969 - in reply to #518937)
Subject: Re: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)


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The 1113 and 1613 have the longer 26 3/16 scale. The Classic Balladeer 1122 has the artist bowl, 2" nut and 12 fret neck.
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Damon67
Posted 2015-11-30 11:57 AM (#518971 - in reply to #518937)
Subject: Re: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)



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Dan, my experience with the info on the Ovation site has been hit and miss. Quite often it's incorrect. The way they decided to do model numbers was confusing for sure. For instance, the '2' in the beginning usually determines the bowl being a contour, so you'd think the only difference between a 1773LX and a 2773LX would be mid-vs deep, but the 2773LX is a 14 fretter with 1 3/4 nut. The one that is the same except for the bowl is the 2073LX. Seems to me the model numbers should be the other way.

I wasn't aware of those nylons ending in '4', but I do know the 6774LX is steel.



Here's the same sheet for the 6773LX:



As you can see, it lists the 6773LX as 1 3/4". Here's more pudding...





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bburg
Posted 2015-11-30 1:12 PM (#518978 - in reply to #518937)
Subject: Re: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)



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Hi Ralf, You are not that far from me, I live in Gau Odernheim, near Alzey. If you want to try some guitars, let me know. I currantly have only one Ovation Nylon-string, the 1624 Country-Artist. I sold a 1713 years ago, which was not my cup of tea...

Bernie
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Freigeist
Posted 2015-11-30 3:36 PM (#518989 - in reply to #518937)
Subject: Re: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)



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Crazy, thanks a lot to everybody for your answers. Very good detailed information. Now I have to go through and check.
Will see, maybe in spring to buy one.
@Bernie: Yes, Gau Odernheim is very close and a village known for good wines ;-) Probably we can stay in contact and meet in spring when I get my yearly bonus salary, having then the ability to buy a Classic Ovation... I definitely like to go for a classic type with 12 fret to body and 52mm string nut (I think it's 2" right?)
Let's see after Christmas...
So, thanks again to everybody for your great info!
Best rgds
Ralf
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-11-30 3:38 PM (#518990 - in reply to #518937)
Subject: Re: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)


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Ralf,
If you aren't totally confused by now, you should be. You need to figure out if you really want a "classic" model or just a nylon string model. A Classic is based on a classical guitar, with a wider neck and a flat fretboard. The 1113 or 1713 models are 2 inches at the nut with a flat fretboard. If you do a lot of barre chords, they might not be for you. Unlike Bernie, I sold my 1624 Country Artist and kept my 1713, largely because I wanted to keep a nylon string guitar that was more of a classical guitar. It also has a cedar top and a neck joined to the body at the 12th fret, like many classical guitars. The main difference between it and a more "normal" classical guitar is the deep bowl. I like the deeper sound and higher volume of the 1713 than what I've heard from true classical guitars.
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Freigeist
Posted 2015-12-01 9:25 AM (#519032 - in reply to #518937)
Subject: Re: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)



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I play already a classic nylon guitar spanish style but not a very good instrument. Means wide nut 2" and flat fretboard. As I'm already a fan of western Ovations, I like to try this kind of classic style on a Ovation too. So I think the 1713 might be the right model for me (if I understood well ;-)) OK, it's enough time to investigate more and those discussions here at this community even gain my eager for this guitar.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-12-01 10:18 AM (#519034 - in reply to #518937)
Subject: Re: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)


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The 1713 is probably the Ovation that is most like a classical. The 1113 is the same without the electronics. There was also a 1613, which was the same as the 1713, but with a Spanish Pine top instead of Cedar. Spanish Pine was just a different type of Cedar. I think I have that right.
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Cavalier
Posted 2015-12-01 11:32 AM (#519035 - in reply to #518937)
Subject: Re: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)


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1113 and 1613 are the acoustic and electric versions respectively with the spanish pine top.
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bburg
Posted 2015-12-01 12:53 PM (#519044 - in reply to #518937)
Subject: Re: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)



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I still have two classical woodboxes, fine intruments. One is built by Antonio Martinez, Spanish typ, full rich warm tone. The other one is custom built by Höfner with all wood grown in Germany and hand made. This one has a "Black-Forest" Spuce-Top. I don't like Cedar tops on classicals, they sound very bassy in my oppinion.


Bernie
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Freigeist
Posted 2015-12-02 6:45 AM (#519074 - in reply to #518937)
Subject: Re: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)



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There are also very good spanish guitars called Alhambra "http://www.alhambrasl.com/index.php?lang=en". I'd played one of them and the sound is really good. They are handcrafted and have a price range from beginners to professional...
But I fall in love with a Ovation, will see if I can find a 1713 or 1613. But it's incredible to learn so much about Ovation models in the last couple of days. Good to be here!
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jay
Posted 2015-12-02 7:30 AM (#519076 - in reply to #518937)
Subject: Re: Looking for a classical Ovation model (Nylon Strings)



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The 1624 was the first (and only) new Ovation I ever bought, in the early 80's. I loved that guitar and kept it for around 15 years. I have owned quite a few of the Ovation nylon/classical models, but never really felt they produced a warm classical sound of the wood boxes. The EA63 was probably my favorite, but it isnt even an acoustic. The 1613 probably came the closest to acoustically comparing with a wood box, in terms of depth, response and sustain.



Edited by jay 2015-12-02 7:42 AM
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