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Peanut Butter
Posted 2015-10-20 8:35 AM (#516408)
Subject: Re: 1778LX - minor cosmetic damage


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I found some minor cosemetic damage on the back of the neck. There are a bunch of gray dots peppering the back of the neck. Does anyone know what causes this?



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DanSavage
Posted 2015-10-20 8:52 AM (#516410 - in reply to #516408)
Subject: Re: Re: 1778LX - minor cosmetic damage



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Are the on the finish or in it?

IOW, when you rub your finger across the dots can you feel them? I ask because they almost look like some sort of paint.
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Peanut Butter
Posted 2015-10-20 9:00 AM (#516411 - in reply to #516410)
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DanSavage - 2015-10-20 9:52 AM Are the on the finish or in it? IOW, when you rub your finger across the dots can you feel them? I ask because they almost look like some sort of paint.

 

 Thanks for asking Dan (I consider you a resident genuis). First of all they are very small; that's close-up picture. Secondly, the extend from roughly the 5th fret to the 9th (on the back of the neck).

 

 To answer your question, I'm not sure. as I said they are fairly small and my fingers sort of feel something, but then again, its pretty smooth.

 

 Given the location on the back of the neck, I'm thinking some sort of reaction to the neck rest in the case. The guitar looks like it sat in the case (yes humidified, thank G-D) for 10 years.



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Nancy
Posted 2015-10-20 9:12 AM (#516413 - in reply to #516411)
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Could it be Mold?
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Peanut Butter
Posted 2015-10-20 9:18 AM (#516414 - in reply to #516413)
Subject: Re: Re: 1778LX - minor cosmetic damage


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Nancy - 2015-10-20 10:12 AM Could it be Mold?

 

Good question. I'm going to send an email to JB.

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T.R.
Posted 2015-10-20 9:24 AM (#516415 - in reply to #516413)
Subject: Re: Re: 1778LX - minor cosmetic damage



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Not sure but - this looks exactly like the back of my Pono ukulele. I got it like that from the factory in Oahu. It happens during the clearcoating process when some contaminat like moist dust gets trapped - it doesn't appear right away. Mine is under the clearcoat and does not present as any sort of bump to the touch. I will try to get a pic tonight for comparison.
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Peanut Butter
Posted 2015-10-20 9:31 AM (#516416 - in reply to #516415)
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Tennessee - 2015-10-20 10:24 AM Not sure but - this looks exactly like the back of my Pono ukulele. I got it like that from the factory in Oahu. It happens during the clearcoating process when some contaminat like moist dust gets trapped - it doesn't appear right away. Mine is under the clearcoat and does not present as any sort of bump to the touch. I will try to get a pic tonight for comparison.

 

 Thanks T-.

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T.R.
Posted 2015-10-20 12:18 PM (#516419 - in reply to #516408)
Subject: Re: 1778LX - minor cosmetic damage



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Ok so i was wrong they do feel like little bumps - but under the finish and smooth to the touch just a teeny lump. Not sure if it is the same as yours. At least its on the back! no one sees it when you are playing !!  Unless you are turning dramaticly to the drummer I guess...

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AstroDan
Posted 2015-10-20 1:17 PM (#516424 - in reply to #516408)
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May be stupid, but have you tried to take a little spit on your finger and rub them out? Looks sort of like oxidation.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2015-10-20 1:26 PM (#516426 - in reply to #516424)
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AstroDan - 2015-10-20 11:17 AM

May be stupid, but have you tried to take a little spit on your finger and rub them out? Looks sort of like oxidation.

I was thinking that someone sneezed while playing that guitar.
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DaveKell
Posted 2015-10-20 2:36 PM (#516431 - in reply to #516408)
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Those are solvent pops in the clearcoat. It happens when the mixture in the spray gun isn't thoroughly stirred and a thicker batch of clear momentarily comes out of the gun. you can sand them out if they bother you with 1000 grit sand paper or #0000 steel wool. Go easy.
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Peanut Butter
Posted 2015-10-20 2:37 PM (#516432 - in reply to #516426)
Subject: Re: Re: 1778LX - minor cosmetic damage


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Old Man Arthur - 2015-10-20 2:26 PM
AstroDan - 2015-10-20 11:17 AM May be stupid, but have you tried to take a little spit on your finger and rub them out? Looks sort of like oxidation.
I was thinking that someone sneezed while playing that guitar.

 

 That's a nice feeling (looks at hands to see if they're covered in snot).

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DanSavage
Posted 2015-10-20 7:37 PM (#516453 - in reply to #516408)
Subject: Re: Re: 1778LX - minor cosmetic damage



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Dave could be right, but they might be some sort of water spotting, too.

The first thing I'd do is try some solvents, working from the most gentle:

Soap and water
Alcohol (isopropyl or denatured alcohol
Naptha (lighter fluid)

If these don't get rid of the spots, I'd take some polishing compound, like Turtle Wax or Maquire's #9 and polish some to see if they can be polished out.

If not, then the only thing left is to wet sand with fine-grade sandpaper, like the 1000-grit Dave recommends. Wet sanding is better than dry sanding. (less mess and shallower scratching)

After wet sanding, you'll need to use polishing compound to polish the surface back to the high-sheen, or if you like the satin neck, just leave it.
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Peanut Butter
Posted 2015-10-20 7:48 PM (#516454 - in reply to #516408)
Subject: Re: Re: 1778LX - minor cosmetic damage


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What is wet sanding?
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Damon67
Posted 2015-10-20 7:55 PM (#516455 - in reply to #516408)
Subject: Re: Re: 1778LX - minor cosmetic damage



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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wet+sanding
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muzza
Posted 2015-10-21 7:15 AM (#516469 - in reply to #516408)
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If you don't know what wet sanding is, I strongly suggest you don't attempt it!

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Peanut Butter
Posted 2015-10-21 8:24 AM (#516473 - in reply to #516469)
Subject: Re: 1778LX - minor cosmetic damage


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muzza - 2015-10-21 8:15 AM

If you don't know what wet sanding is, I strongly suggest you don't attempt it!

 

 I think that's the advice I'll take. E-mail sent to John B.

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Patch
Posted 2015-10-21 9:38 AM (#516476 - in reply to #516473)
Subject: Re: 1778LX - minor cosmetic damage



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Peanut Butter - 2015-10-21 9:24 AM

E-mail sent to John B.

You have learned much in a short time Grasshopper.

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Peanut Butter
Posted 2015-10-21 11:07 AM (#516479 - in reply to #516476)
Subject: Re: 1778LX - minor cosmetic damage


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Patch - 2015-10-21 10:38 AM

Peanut Butter - 2015-10-21 9:24 AM

E-mail sent to John B.

You have learned much in a short time Grasshopper.

 

 Thank you Master (ah, the '70's).

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